What is your evidence that Zelenskyy is a zionist? Because to me I think the situation is more akin to: Zelenskyy will do whatever it takes to win his home, and if that means letting Israel be a thorn in the side of Iran who was at least at one point Russia’s arms supplier (not so much these days), then he’s all for it. I doubt he gives much thought at all to the notion of the Israel-Palestine conflict. After all, he kind of has bigger issues at the home front.
He could have simply not talked about Israel at all instead of saying that he want Ukraine to be a big Israel, comparing Hamas to Russia when Israel is Russia since both are colonial powers and having the israeli prime minister Golda Meir as a Role Model maintaining colonization of Palestine as a a role model and withdrawing from the UN Committee on Palestinian Rights
This is what Golda Meir said
There was no such thing as Palestinians… It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.
Where did I heard a similar statement? Oh yeah Putin talking about how Ukrainians do not exists.
In 1972, her government authorized the military to use planes to spray toxic chemical defoliants onto the crops of Palestinian farmers in the West Bank village of Aqraba. This intentionally destroyed their harvest and livelihoods, forcing them off the land so the illegal Jewish settlement of Gitit could be constructed in their place.
You know why Iran is an ally to Russia? It is because the whole west is suffocating it with devastating sanctions since the revolution. Isn’t it weird that the west is negotiating with Iran about an non existent nuclear threat yet nothing to remove sanctions on them in exchange of Iran distancing themselves from Russia?
Hot take around here but that was in the recent aftermath of October 7th which was – by all accounts – fucking horrendous. Date the remarks of Zelenskyy and you’ll find he has increasingly distanced himself as time went on and the scale of the atrocities levied in response by Israel following October 7th were made clear. At the time though, yes it was apt to equate Hamas and Russian terrorist attacks against civilians. 100%.
Pretty obvious that he was riding off the coattails to draw similarities of public outcries of support to Israel and express something akin to, “yeah, welcome to the club we’ve been in the same boat over here.”
I stand by what I said that he kind of has bigger issues at the home front and this is in no way shape or form evidence of him being a staunch Zionist.
As much as 7 of october was horrendous. 78 years of oppression by israel it did all crimes hamas did and more was even more horrendous yet Zelensky shamelesly praise a terrorist state similar to russia and said .
yeah, welcome to the club we’ve been in the same boat over here
Ukraine and palestine is in the same boat, not Israel and Ukraine. Russia and israel are the settler colonial powers. Palestine and Ukraine are the occupied and colonized
The praise of the ancient israeli prime minister was also before 7 of october.
Like I said he did not have to say anything all and focus on fighting Russia instead.
You’re overthinking this. It doesn’t matter what you and I or even Zelenskyy believed then or now about Israel; the only thing that mattered at the time was that global public sentiment was clearly behind Israel and that the acute footage of October 7 was horrifying and galvanizing for much of the international community in support of Israel. Zelenskyy would be a fool to not use that to drive a thorn in Iran’s side by hammering one of its proxies and forcing Iran – the nation supplying bombs to Russia to kill his own people – to withhold weapons stockpiles for its own defense. Welcome to the geopolitical chess-play of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Zelenskyy is not a Zionist.
Fuck that. Stop making dumb excuses. Zelensky praise of Israel started before Russia invaded Ukraine and before 7 of October. The fact that you minimize the suffering of Palestinians for 78 goddamn year is disgusting. Israel murdered directly more Palestinians yearly on average for 78 goddamn year than Hamas murdered during the 7 of October. Every single goddamn atrocities Hamas did on 7 of October Israel did to Palestinians .The international community agree that Israel should end occupation right now
Zelensky is a fool to think Iran will fall. Iran will be forced to deepen even more it’s relation to Russia , the complete opposite of what it need to be done. Before of that dumb war Israel and the USA started. Sanctions on Russian always was eased up , defense weapons dedicated to Ukraine was redirected to protect the terrorist state of Israel. Zelensky and you are fools . Do you realize that Israel has good relation with Russia despite not needing it? Ukraine do not even depend that much on Israel weapons
All I’m seeing in this is someone around their true position that is, “Two wrongs somehow make a right and I condone the Hamas terrorist attack and brutal murder of children because of other wrongs.”
Please, put your disdain for Israel aside for just a brief fucking moment and actually look at the individual civilians acutely affected. The sooner you act like a humanist independent of borders, the better off you will be.
I support ukraine right to defend itself but Zelensky is a zionist
What is your evidence that Zelenskyy is a zionist? Because to me I think the situation is more akin to: Zelenskyy will do whatever it takes to win his home, and if that means letting Israel be a thorn in the side of Iran who was at least at one point Russia’s arms supplier (not so much these days), then he’s all for it. I doubt he gives much thought at all to the notion of the Israel-Palestine conflict. After all, he kind of has bigger issues at the home front.
He could have simply not talked about Israel at all instead of saying that he want Ukraine to be a big Israel, comparing Hamas to Russia when Israel is Russia since both are colonial powers and having the israeli prime minister Golda Meir as a Role Model maintaining colonization of Palestine as a a role model and withdrawing from the UN Committee on Palestinian Rights
This is what Golda Meir said
Where did I heard a similar statement? Oh yeah Putin talking about how Ukrainians do not exists.
In 1972, her government authorized the military to use planes to spray toxic chemical defoliants onto the crops of Palestinian farmers in the West Bank village of Aqraba. This intentionally destroyed their harvest and livelihoods, forcing them off the land so the illegal Jewish settlement of Gitit could be constructed in their place.
You know why Iran is an ally to Russia? It is because the whole west is suffocating it with devastating sanctions since the revolution. Isn’t it weird that the west is negotiating with Iran about an non existent nuclear threat yet nothing to remove sanctions on them in exchange of Iran distancing themselves from Russia?
Hot take around here but that was in the recent aftermath of October 7th which was – by all accounts – fucking horrendous. Date the remarks of Zelenskyy and you’ll find he has increasingly distanced himself as time went on and the scale of the atrocities levied in response by Israel following October 7th were made clear. At the time though, yes it was apt to equate Hamas and Russian terrorist attacks against civilians. 100%.
Pretty obvious that he was riding off the coattails to draw similarities of public outcries of support to Israel and express something akin to, “yeah, welcome to the club we’ve been in the same boat over here.”
I stand by what I said that he kind of has bigger issues at the home front and this is in no way shape or form evidence of him being a staunch Zionist.
As much as 7 of october was horrendous. 78 years of oppression by israel it did all crimes hamas did and more was even more horrendous yet Zelensky shamelesly praise a terrorist state similar to russia and said .
Ukraine and palestine is in the same boat, not Israel and Ukraine. Russia and israel are the settler colonial powers. Palestine and Ukraine are the occupied and colonized
The praise of the ancient israeli prime minister was also before 7 of october.
Like I said he did not have to say anything all and focus on fighting Russia instead.
You’re overthinking this. It doesn’t matter what you and I or even Zelenskyy believed then or now about Israel; the only thing that mattered at the time was that global public sentiment was clearly behind Israel and that the acute footage of October 7 was horrifying and galvanizing for much of the international community in support of Israel. Zelenskyy would be a fool to not use that to drive a thorn in Iran’s side by hammering one of its proxies and forcing Iran – the nation supplying bombs to Russia to kill his own people – to withhold weapons stockpiles for its own defense. Welcome to the geopolitical chess-play of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Zelenskyy is not a Zionist.
Fuck that. Stop making dumb excuses. Zelensky praise of Israel started before Russia invaded Ukraine and before 7 of October. The fact that you minimize the suffering of Palestinians for 78 goddamn year is disgusting. Israel murdered directly more Palestinians yearly on average for 78 goddamn year than Hamas murdered during the 7 of October. Every single goddamn atrocities Hamas did on 7 of October Israel did to Palestinians .The international community agree that Israel should end occupation right now
Zelensky is a fool to think Iran will fall. Iran will be forced to deepen even more it’s relation to Russia , the complete opposite of what it need to be done. Before of that dumb war Israel and the USA started. Sanctions on Russian always was eased up , defense weapons dedicated to Ukraine was redirected to protect the terrorist state of Israel. Zelensky and you are fools . Do you realize that Israel has good relation with Russia despite not needing it? Ukraine do not even depend that much on Israel weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Russia_relations
All I’m seeing in this is someone around their true position that is, “Two wrongs somehow make a right and I condone the Hamas terrorist attack and brutal murder of children because of other wrongs.”
Please, put your disdain for Israel aside for just a brief fucking moment and actually look at the individual civilians acutely affected. The sooner you act like a humanist independent of borders, the better off you will be.
I’m done with this fucked up conversation.