Mercedes-Benz's largest individual shareholder is BAIC, a Chinese state-owned automaker. Sources told CNBC that exemptions in the legislation would not apply.
Can you provide an example of how people are “railroaded” into buying trucks and how there is not a single car on the road in the US that “people want” yet they bought one anyway? These claims are so ridiculous.
And I think this goes for any car company that sells in the US
You’re claiming that no auto manufacturer in the world sells a vehicle that people want outside of these two Chinese brands? If thats the case then why don’t BYD and Greely have a 100% market share everywhere they’re sold?
The railroading would be more akin to aggressive marketing and some degree of propaganda, which is extremely common in the United States. Very rarely you’ll get car ads on the US that aren’t some sort of SUV or light truck.
And no, that’s not my claim. It’s more that BYD and Geely have vehicles and features that aren’t made with the sole goal of making the car more expensive. American car companies (and subsidiaries of foreign companies) are extremely predatory, and BYD/Geely try to focus in moving away from that way of treating the customer. And yes, that is a marketing tactic. But if this marketing tactic makes predatory western car companies change their ways, I don’t see a problem with it.
When both of those companies arrived in Brazil, the cars became extremely popular mostly because of them offering (assumingly) non-predatory practices. They’re still large companies, so I don’t inherently trust them in that regard, but it’s competition that is making western car companies shit themselves hard enough to try to ban those vehicles.
aggressive marketing and some degree of propaganda
You mean like BYD and Greely claiming they’ll sell everyone brand new cars for $10k if only you’d just let them take over your entire auto industry? This is a well worn ploy of any disruptor. Move in with something that dazzles everyone and earns good will just long enough to take over the market and then immediately enshittify your product because there is no competitor left.
American car companies (and subsidiaries of foreign companies) are extremely predatory
Meaning every auto manufacturer in the world outside of China since they all sell here? “Everyone is a predator except China!”
BYD/Geely try to focus in moving away from that way of treating the customer.
Of course they do because they’re in the growth phase. They’re that new drug dealer on the corner that wants you to try their product and hey! they’ll even let you try it for free! What compels them to maintain goodwill once they’re the only ones left standing since they’re being directly funded by their powerful government? Can you provide examples of other Chinese companies doing this in the past and maintaining that goodwill in other industries?
it’s competition that is making western car companies shit themselves hard enough to try to ban those vehicles.
That’s not “competition” that’s their wealthy government using their vast resources to undercut everyone else and sell their product at a loss. It’s quite an obvious ploy and its completely unsustainable long term. As I’ve repeatedly stated, this is only being done to capture and control the market.
No, I just thought your argument was terrible and extremely defensive of the Western car market cartel, as if anyone needs to defend them. I am aware that Chinese companies are not little angels, but compared to the Western brands that explicitly run a rat race to see who can sell the shittiest car for the highest price, they’re more saintly than Mother Mary.
Can you provide an example of how people are “railroaded” into buying trucks and how there is not a single car on the road in the US that “people want” yet they bought one anyway? These claims are so ridiculous.
You’re claiming that no auto manufacturer in the world sells a vehicle that people want outside of these two Chinese brands? If thats the case then why don’t BYD and Greely have a 100% market share everywhere they’re sold?
The railroading would be more akin to aggressive marketing and some degree of propaganda, which is extremely common in the United States. Very rarely you’ll get car ads on the US that aren’t some sort of SUV or light truck.
And no, that’s not my claim. It’s more that BYD and Geely have vehicles and features that aren’t made with the sole goal of making the car more expensive. American car companies (and subsidiaries of foreign companies) are extremely predatory, and BYD/Geely try to focus in moving away from that way of treating the customer. And yes, that is a marketing tactic. But if this marketing tactic makes predatory western car companies change their ways, I don’t see a problem with it.
When both of those companies arrived in Brazil, the cars became extremely popular mostly because of them offering (assumingly) non-predatory practices. They’re still large companies, so I don’t inherently trust them in that regard, but it’s competition that is making western car companies shit themselves hard enough to try to ban those vehicles.
You mean like BYD and Greely claiming they’ll sell everyone brand new cars for $10k if only you’d just let them take over your entire auto industry? This is a well worn ploy of any disruptor. Move in with something that dazzles everyone and earns good will just long enough to take over the market and then immediately enshittify your product because there is no competitor left.
Meaning every auto manufacturer in the world outside of China since they all sell here? “Everyone is a predator except China!”
Of course they do because they’re in the growth phase. They’re that new drug dealer on the corner that wants you to try their product and hey! they’ll even let you try it for free! What compels them to maintain goodwill once they’re the only ones left standing since they’re being directly funded by their powerful government? Can you provide examples of other Chinese companies doing this in the past and maintaining that goodwill in other industries?
That’s not “competition” that’s their wealthy government using their vast resources to undercut everyone else and sell their product at a loss. It’s quite an obvious ploy and its completely unsustainable long term. As I’ve repeatedly stated, this is only being done to capture and control the market.
You’re not doing yourself any favors defending General “I sell pedestrian-crushing trucks” Motors.
This is all you can respond with? Some appeal to emotion regarding something I didn’t even say?
How lame.
Funny you bring up “crushing pedestrians” as that reminds of an incident in Tiananmen Square from a while back…
No, I just thought your argument was terrible and extremely defensive of the Western car market cartel, as if anyone needs to defend them. I am aware that Chinese companies are not little angels, but compared to the Western brands that explicitly run a rat race to see who can sell the shittiest car for the highest price, they’re more saintly than Mother Mary.