• magnetosphere@fedia.io
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    20 hours ago

    I don’t like it by association, because most of the time I hear it used by intolerant people (like right wing assholes on the “news”). Sometimes, though, I hear it used without malice, presumably because people don’t know what else to say.

    Pardon my ignorance, but what term would you suggest instead? Birth sex? Assigned sex? Something else?

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      13 hours ago

      I’m not the person you asked, but ‘assigned sex’ is fine. The common one is ‘assigned gender at birth’.

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        13 hours ago

        The common one is ‘assigned gender at birth’.

        *assigned sex

        gender is assigned at birth by society, sex is assigned at birth by biology

        usually they match, but sometimes they dont (hard-to-detect intersex conditions (which are never noticed), easy-to-detect intersex conditions (that get you mutilated))

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          5 hours ago

          sex is assigned at birth by biology

          Minor unimportant correction: Sex is usually assigned at birth by nurses. It’s occasionally incorrect because it’s usually decided by what the baby’s crotch looks like rather than a blood test.

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            3 hours ago

            no, assigned sex is assigned by biology

            nurses failing to notice that youre intersex doesnt make you not intersex

            nurses attempt to discern the birth-assigned sex; they do not decide it

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              2 hours ago

              The word “assigned” is used exactly to describe a decision by a second party (the nurse) based on the limited information they have at the time.

              Midwives relatively frequently incorrectly assign intersex people at birth.

              Your actual sex isn’t assigned by anybody, and certainly isn’t decided at birth, but rather at conception.

              Timeline:

              1. Conception: chromosomes determined.
              2. Womb: hormonal context influences gender characteristics.
              3. Birth: nurse assigns male or female.
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                2 hours ago

                The word “assigned” is used exactly to describe a decision by a second party (the nurse) based on the limited information they have at the time.

                no

                i’m using it to mean “gotten without having chosen it”

                the sex they have gotten, without having chosen it, from the dna lottery