• Silver Needle@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    I don’t want to paint post 1925 USSR in a good light, but wasn’t an immense number of Soviet citizens killed by the Nazis? I mean, I think it was something to the tune of 22 million last time I checked. Germany had roughly 8 million killed.

    To me this smells like an attempt to encroach on anti-war leftist and communists who might carry symbols of their movements at demonstrations, regardless if they’re Putinists/Stalinists or state-unaffiliated.

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            Russians raped an estimated 2 million German women after the fall of Berlin. some were still children. the worst part of that number is that it’s an estimate. at least 130k women were confirmed raped in Berlin alone. the reason why it’s difficult to identify a better number is that most Germans didn’t talk about it. they didn’t talk about it because they felt they deserved it, as punishment. so, who punishes the Russians then?

            The fear always remains in your body, and you never get rid of it. The pain lessens over time, but the fear is always there.

            so please, tell me how the soviet red army wasn’t evil?

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              Why are you calling it russians? it was the red army comprised of every SSR soldiers and the first red army battalion that reached berlin were ukrainians, you are just pathetically racist towards russians, isnt it?

              Secondly I care less about german women rapes, not much considering they were planning to wipe out entire soviet population, murdered 27 million soviets and raped millions of them. It was just tragedy of war.

              Red army was moral.

              • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                oh I see. when it’s about putting your little empire back, it’s “the Russian empire” but when it comes to crimes against humanity it’s, “the red army”.

                I know you’re a troll. a shitty one at that. but how can I not call out such low quality bait when it shows up.

  • Tolc@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 months ago

    Gentle reminder that 80% nazis were k!lled by the red army, no amount of suppression or history revisionism by capitalists will change or diminish the sacrifices of soviet people.

    Long live the red army, army of proletarian of the world!

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      6 months ago

      The sacrifice and courage of Soviet soldiers in the face of Nazi aggression is profound and worthy of admiration, yes.

      Should be noted that Stalin was a Hitler-enabler and early ally, or at least subtle collaborator, leading up to the onset of the war. The western democracies should have done a better job of building a coalition with Stalin in the thirties, but failed, hoping appeasement and hand-wringing would do the trick instead.

      Soviet soldiers also invaded Finland around that time and were complete assholes there, even if they did get their asses handed to them by a numerically-inferior, but fierce fighting source. It’s sad that most of the slaughter was inflicted upon Ukrainian conscripts who probably didn’t actually give a shit about annexing Finland.

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          To say they “collaborated” by using Poland as a battleground is dishonest.

          In the end that was clearly an agreement on when/where the war would begin, as Poland was somewhat Nazi-aligned (but not part of the Nazi project) and the Soviets knew it’d be better to have them as an unwilling buffer than to see them completely allied with Germany.

          Make no mistake, they sent their armies there to fight each other to the death.

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      6 months ago

      Remember that Ukraine was part of the Red Army. One of the Soviet units attacking Berlin was 1st Ukrainian Front.

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      6 months ago

      And what percentage of the red army was Ukrainians, Georgians, Armenians, Azeris, Khazakhs, etc? russofascist revisionism and appropriation is cancer too.

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          The USSR was nothing more than a russian colonial empire. You couldn’t have your glorious soviet utopia without Russia.

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            No it wasnt, prove it to me how? You are just a triggered liberal who is mad that USSR defeated nazism and gave real challenge to liberal neo colonialism.

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        They shouldve looted more stuff

        imagine calling addition of smoke for dramatic effect as propaganda