People who are now Israelis have a right to exist, just like everybody else.
The nation of Israel has no right to exist, same as all other nations.
Funny how racialized politics, autoritarianist tendencies and even a certain view of nation states as more important than people, did not stop when NAZI Germany was defeated and are still very much alive and acted on in Germany - the symbols such as swasticas and goose-stepping aren’t displayed anymore but the fundational aspects of the NAZI view of the world, of the value of people and of the validity of the use of force to suppress ideas the powerful dislike, are still alive and well in Germany.
The nation of Israel has no right to exist, same as all other nations.
I don’t know about this as a blanket declaration. I’m no moral philosopher, but if I can imagine Trump saying this in a speech announcing the annexation of Canada, then there’s probably something morally wrong with.
What you’re missing in your interpretation of your own example is the consideration that the right to exist, to be free and to chose how they rule of the people currently in the territory of Canada is what would be under threat by Trump, not some imaginary “right” of Canada. Canada should not exist due to any inherent “right” of nation states, it should exist if and only it helps uphold the rights of people.
The social construct called Israel in overall does not uphold the rights of people: sure it does support some rights for some specific people, but it suppresses rights for far more people than it supports, especially the most important one of all - the right to life. The social construct called Israel as it is now should not exist because it oppresses more people than it supports and it’s the people who have rights.
People who are now Israelis have a right to exist, just like everybody else.
The nation of Israel has no right to exist, same as all other nations.
Funny how racialized politics, autoritarianist tendencies and even a certain view of nation states as more important than people, did not stop when NAZI Germany was defeated and are still very much alive and acted on in Germany - the symbols such as swasticas and goose-stepping aren’t displayed anymore but the fundational aspects of the NAZI view of the world, of the value of people and of the validity of the use of force to suppress ideas the powerful dislike, are still alive and well in Germany.
I don’t know about this as a blanket declaration. I’m no moral philosopher, but if I can imagine Trump saying this in a speech announcing the annexation of Canada, then there’s probably something morally wrong with.
People have rights.
Social constructs have no rights.
What you’re missing in your interpretation of your own example is the consideration that the right to exist, to be free and to chose how they rule of the people currently in the territory of Canada is what would be under threat by Trump, not some imaginary “right” of Canada. Canada should not exist due to any inherent “right” of nation states, it should exist if and only it helps uphold the rights of people.
The social construct called Israel in overall does not uphold the rights of people: sure it does support some rights for some specific people, but it suppresses rights for far more people than it supports, especially the most important one of all - the right to life. The social construct called Israel as it is now should not exist because it oppresses more people than it supports and it’s the people who have rights.