• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    Hmm, looks like you’re right. That specific image wasn’t actually circulated by an official Iranian source.

    I’ll admit I missed that, because it was so consistent with all of the other messaging coming out of Iran. The image circulated at a time where - with zero evidence to the effect, and a lot of evidence to the contrary - Iran was claiming to have shot down something like four or five Isreal F-35’s. As far as any independent observers can tell the actual number was zero. Then there’s the current conflict where Iran took videos of a wrecked F-15 and claimed it was an F-35, among other obvious lies.

    I’ll freely grant you that specific case; we all get caught out sometimes. But you’re the one trying to argue that Iran, a nation with a long history of proven blatant falsehoods in their official messaging, are some kind of paragons of truth. That doesn’t mean that the US doesn’t also lie like crazy. A lot of nations do. It just means you’re in idiot if you go buying into this teenage morality idea that “US bad = Iran good.” They’re an autocratic regime that lies reflexively… Just like the Trump administration. Anything they say has to be treated with a baseline level of suspicion, and it’s absurd to argue otherwise.

    • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
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      9 hours ago

      Again, Iran never claimed to shoot down multiple F-35s. They did believe they shot down the F-35 that they put out of service, but that could be generously interpreted as ‘did enough damage to remove it from service permanently’ rather than it actively crashing before returning to base; which western sources agree with.

      So again, YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN WHERE THEY HAVE LIED ONCE.

      Not a single time.

      You have been repeating random things you have seen but have never checked in on, because your brain has been gangraped by the Amerisraeli empire into just being mush.

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        8 hours ago

        https://boltflight.com/f-35-shootdown-controversy-iran-claims-historic-kill-of-israeli-stealth-jets-amid-rising-regional-tensions/

        Iranian state media, quoting military sources, reported that two F-35I Adirs were intercepted and downed by Iranian air defense units during or immediately after their bombing run on targets near Natanz and other strategic installations. One of the pilots, described as a female aviator, was allegedly captured after ejecting over Iranian territory. Iranian Press TV wasted no time in proclaiming this as a global first: “Iran has earned the distinction of being the first country in the world to successfully shoot down fifth-generation fighter jets belonging to the Zionist regime.”

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          8 hours ago

          So that’s a no, you have no legitimate source for your beliefs. If you did… you’d just post the Iranian state media post that supposedly exists.

          While lot of articles were spawned by the israeli state media post that wholesale made up this idea, NOT ONE SINGLE SOURCE FROM IRAN EXISTS THAT STATES THIS. Not a single one.

          So since there are no primary sources for this claim, I would hope you would reconsider your beliefs and maybe be a little critical in the future.