Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.

Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.

“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

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    Are US protestants the same as UK Anglicans? Like is it the same church? I thought for sure most US Christians were nutjob baptists or other what would similarly fringe sects anywhere else in the world. Wait, are baptists protestants?

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      The Episcopalians are the American Anglicans, which is a Protestant denomination. But Baptists, Evangelicals, Presbyterians, Lutherans and lots of others are also American Protestant denominations.

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      Anglicanism is sort of Protestantism. It forked off of the Catholic Church after the start of the Protestant Reformation, but wasn’t really part of the movement. The king of England at the time specifically had a problem with the Pope and essentially took over the churches in England, keeping the Catholic traditions and power structure but changing the head of the faith from the Pope to the king. The English monarch is still officially the head of the Anglican Church.

      Americans are very much not Anglican and many of the people who emigrated to the colonies were religious minorities from proper Protestant groups.

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        The king of England at the time specifically had a problem with the Pope

        Didn’t he essentially found a new religion so he could get a divorce?

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        Now I understand: Mom was devout Christian, & we went to Anglican churches, until Dad ditched us, then Catholic ones…

        Finally I understand the 1st Christianity I was brought-up in…

        Thank you for your explanation.

        It clarifies why Protestantism always seemed … broken, somehow: I’d only ever known Anglicanism & Catholicism, so my view wasn’t as diverse as I’d assumed.

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      I think you’re correct: Most of US protestants are nutjob baptists in fringe sects. It seems there was a reason for the religious persecution of the puritans…

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      Alright, so I had to check my understanding. Yeah, that’s all Protestantism, but they’re all different and all disagree with each other. Baptists are the largest single Protestant group in the US, overlapping to classic original southern US states. Honestly, I thought Protestants were a distinct group but I guess the group I’d assume them to be would actually be Lutherans, assuming they’re adherent to the original protesting Martin Luther.