• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    14 hours ago

    one of the most annoying things is even if we get a “blue wave” and get maga out of the presidency and congress you know that two years in they will be loudly blaming whoever is president and the democrats as we are not doing great with all the infaltion and being an isolated country whos currency is becoming regional.

    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf
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      10 hours ago

      Does a strict two party system even constitute a democracy? There’s so little incentive to do what the people want when the worst punishment is that you only have to wait until the other party fucks up worse than you did and then you’re back in the game. In the meantime, just sit tight and snipe from the sidelines.

      The Republican Party needs to cease to exist for what it’s done. I don’t know how that could happen but I don’t see a bright future for the world if they’re still around when the next Dem President starts to become unpopular.

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        8 hours ago

        I have said they need to cease to exist and only the voters can do that. Them not winning even 25% of the legislature should do it. Many folk want to bring something forward over the democrats and I often say we pretty much have to eliminate the republicans first. dems would easily split in that scendario along with likely the greens taking office. actually that would be a good metric. If the republicans were down to just the nuttiest areas then if the greens could hold as much or more than them it would effectively eliminate them as their nuts would vote democrat over republican if the greens were a real threat which would drive the republican party even further down.

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      10 hours ago

      If the democrats win as well as we’re expecting they COULD take down billionaires and mass media propaganda machines that’s behind all these right-wing movements…but I’m betting they won’t. They probably won’t abolish ICE, they won’t stuff the supreme court, they won’t cut off Israel, they won’t roll back the insane power of the POTUS and executive branch, etc, etc.

      This country is fucked for a generation at least, or as long as this two party government remains intact.

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        8 hours ago

        You dont understand how the American two party system works. Let me explain it in simple terms.

        You have one party that is corporate light; that’s the democrats. And you have another party that’s corporate get fucked in the arse; that’s the Republicans.

        Both parties serve their corporate masters first and foremost before any consideration of the common man. Neither party will challenge this status quo in any meaningful way. The difference is that one is willing to be a little more giving than the other fiscally.

        But the reality is that the entire political process is captured by vested financial interests that own politicians and work together so that over the long term it all gets shitter and shitter for the common people and they get richer and richer.

        The only way out of this is to primary every politician in the democratic party that have any financial ties to the elites. To money.

        That’s most of them.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        10 hours ago

        Y’all keep saying democrats as if democrats are one unified party.

        its not.

        Its 37 parties in a trench coat.

        Thats the problem with the democrats. Its basically a Chimera built out of everything thats not-republican, and thats down largely to our two party system of bullshit.

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        they COULD take down billionaires and mass media propaganda machines that’s behind all these right-wing movements…but I’m betting they won’t.

        Yeah controlled opposition tends not to bite the hand that feeds.

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        8 hours ago

        stuffing the supreme court is a pretty controversial thing although now more popular given republicans messed with court picks to get us were we are. Many democrats are not fine using trumps “methods” in a good way and want to still abide by the constitution and law. I know foks completely against trump but are not sure about actually abolishing ice. I point out they had not even existed before but they point out border control is kinda worse and that would result in border patrol fulfilling their role. keeping in mind their role was not so controversial before trump.

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        10 hours ago

        They have their own funders, and you’ll be upset when you find out who they are. (Hint: it’s the same people, give or take a few)

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      Yeah, when the Dems take back the power, and have to clean up the unholy mess that MAGA will leave, there will be very loud opposition, and the Dems are going to have to get over their obsession for politeness to traitors, and learn to employ the phrase “SHUT THE FUCK UP!”