I have been able to talk some of my neighbors into at least saying that we’ll stand together should ICE comes. But getting them to cross state lines? Or even do a Rent/Mortgage strike is just too many steps too far for most of them. Especially when take into account that it’s days of travel, and you still need money for food and gas. Also our families needs food, shelter, and so on.
Surviving even at selfish costs, is unfortunately the Las Vegan way.
I at the very least thought a Rent/Mortgage strike would appeal to those selfish and apathetic, but somehow a strike that keeps your resources in your pocket is less liked than a General Strike that you have build resources for ahead of time. And arguing that we should encourage our homeless population to just take up homes that are sitting empty due to corps buying up houses for renting out was… well let’s just say I have to wait until people are more fed up before I can bring up that particular strategy again.
Hell getting people to go armed to protests has been met with hard no’s even after I point out how different police act when people are armed. And that all you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff to see how much different police treat those that are armed. (The police at the time came in unarmed, and without body armor to negotiate just so they wouldn’t set off the snipers).
So you want to know why we’re not using the unique way of protesting? Logistics, survival, and because most Americans prefer to be livestock for the Oligarchs than to actually be wolves fighting for our liberty, and will make every excuse to just wait for the slaughter.
I think that if the United States we know are replaced, we will need the new Constitution to enshrine UBI. Part of that should be free fuel, food, and lodgings. By providing such things, it will be much easier for people to protest. Right now, you have to risk losing everything if you dare wander off the corporate reservations.
No work? No agency. Have work? no agency.
We must work towards ensuring agency for every single person.
I’ve been thinking the exact same things. A New Constitution is what is required. Our Founding Fathers always planned for such events, and we were expected to rewrite The Constitution as needed, including upto building completely from new.
IMO, a government should only exist in service to the people, and when it fails at that service it needs to be reformed.
Armed protests don’t always end well. Michigan in the 00’s had a gay libertarian host a legalization of Marijuana petition to get the issue on the ballot, at his Rainbow ranch in like battle creek or something. Police fucked with them and the Michigan Militia showed up to defend them. State police shot the owner of the ranch with a sniper for no good reason after a bit.
Your argument doesn’t hold much water when the alternative currently is letting them haul you and yours to a concentration camp, and are already killing Americans in the street at unarmed protests. Context and the amount of guns being the big difference, as I could not find any evidence that the Michigan Militia was involved. Only mention of them is that they provided unarmed security for the farm before the conflict arose but we’re not present for the actual standoff.
So I’m going to need a source backing up your claims.
Americans have a unique way of protesting enshrined in the constitution. They aren’t using it
I have been able to talk some of my neighbors into at least saying that we’ll stand together should ICE comes. But getting them to cross state lines? Or even do a Rent/Mortgage strike is just too many steps too far for most of them. Especially when take into account that it’s days of travel, and you still need money for food and gas. Also our families needs food, shelter, and so on.
Surviving even at selfish costs, is unfortunately the Las Vegan way.
I at the very least thought a Rent/Mortgage strike would appeal to those selfish and apathetic, but somehow a strike that keeps your resources in your pocket is less liked than a General Strike that you have build resources for ahead of time. And arguing that we should encourage our homeless population to just take up homes that are sitting empty due to corps buying up houses for renting out was… well let’s just say I have to wait until people are more fed up before I can bring up that particular strategy again.
Hell getting people to go armed to protests has been met with hard no’s even after I point out how different police act when people are armed. And that all you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff to see how much different police treat those that are armed. (The police at the time came in unarmed, and without body armor to negotiate just so they wouldn’t set off the snipers).
So you want to know why we’re not using the unique way of protesting? Logistics, survival, and because most Americans prefer to be livestock for the Oligarchs than to actually be wolves fighting for our liberty, and will make every excuse to just wait for the slaughter.
I think that if the United States we know are replaced, we will need the new Constitution to enshrine UBI. Part of that should be free fuel, food, and lodgings. By providing such things, it will be much easier for people to protest. Right now, you have to risk losing everything if you dare wander off the corporate reservations.
No work? No agency. Have work? no agency.
We must work towards ensuring agency for every single person.
I’ve been thinking the exact same things. A New Constitution is what is required. Our Founding Fathers always planned for such events, and we were expected to rewrite The Constitution as needed, including upto building completely from new.
IMO, a government should only exist in service to the people, and when it fails at that service it needs to be reformed.
Armed protests don’t always end well. Michigan in the 00’s had a gay libertarian host a legalization of Marijuana petition to get the issue on the ballot, at his Rainbow ranch in like battle creek or something. Police fucked with them and the Michigan Militia showed up to defend them. State police shot the owner of the ranch with a sniper for no good reason after a bit.
Your argument doesn’t hold much water when the alternative currently is letting them haul you and yours to a concentration camp, and are already killing Americans in the street at unarmed protests. Context and the amount of guns being the big difference, as I could not find any evidence that the Michigan Militia was involved. Only mention of them is that they provided unarmed security for the farm before the conflict arose but we’re not present for the actual standoff.
So I’m going to need a source backing up your claims.