Trump is no longer bending the rules – he is demolishing them, with consequences far beyond Caracas

  • SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
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    4 days ago

    So, what’s the point here? Whatever the evils of the US in the past, this is nonetheless a dangerous and frightening escalation, smashing a fragile world order. This message of, “oh, this is nothing new, the US has always been evil” comes across as a resounding call to complacency, and is a rhetorical technique widely used by the fascists.

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      3 days ago

      You’re mistaken in almost every sentence here and it sounds like you’re unlearning some things. The USA is and always has been a fundamentally violent, extractive, sexist, racist, genocidal entity. How something like that reads as complacency to you can only be explained by you.

      When I say Donald Trump is not exceptional, I am encouraging liberals who are new to criticising the US state to not resort to further pro-imperialist narratives that views state violence as caused by individual bad actors and not a system that cannot exist without blood.

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        I see that I am not mistaken, as you have just proved by lashing out based on clearly faulty assumptions about me. I am telling you how your words may appear to others. (At least one other reader took it that way.) If you don’t want feedback in order to reach an audience with your political goals, then I’ll say instead: Wow. Very edge. Much brave.

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          3 days ago

          Jesus. I don’t know what you expected me to feel from that. You don’t seem like a serious person.

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      The people posting this want a West that is paralyzed by corruption, ineptitude, apathy, and guilt (demoralization), while China slowly takes the reigns as the world superpower for better or worse, probably worse. They are not interested in constructive thought or action from us because they are probably not Americans nor do they want a reformed US. They want you to be apathetic while you watch your home collapse around you, because we were evil anyway and we deserve it.

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        3 days ago

        Apologetics for past US imperialism does not seem a productive strategy for criticizing present imperialist actions, nor preventing future imperialism.

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        3 days ago

        they are probably not Americans

        No, it’s worse. They’re Americans that think this is a football game, and who have chosen the edgier team. They shitpost about Deng and Marx, so that makes them honourary Chinese, right? /s

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      4 days ago

      comes across as a resounding call to complacency, and is a rhetorical technique widely used by the fascists.

      Nope. It’s just another warning that people will hand wave aside and ask what’s the point here and shoot the messenger.

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          2 days ago

          Being a wound collector is selfish. Notice how you are talking about the messenger and not the warning?

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      4 days ago

      Lemmy likes to push a certain conspiratorial worldview about these things. That’s the point.