• Taldan@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    The best way to prevent repeating history is to remember it. Monuments and museums oike this and Auschwitz are incredible tools for teaching history

    Advocating for that erasure of Nazi history is likely only to find you allies in Nazis and Holocaust deniers

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      11 hours ago

      Who’s advocating for it’s erasure? Was taking down Confederate monuments an erasure of their history?

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        8 hours ago

        You said this:

        no stone or board related directly to the man and not his victims. Should have been left intact.

        I disagree with you because I don’t believe that history should ever be repeated. Seeing how he acted, through how he shaped the country, is important to preventing that

        For example, did you know this particular location has a grand, 400 foot golden elevator?

        Put yourself in the shoes of an average MAGA supported who does not agree with genocide

        They’d get to Eagle’s Nest, step in that golden elevator and think, “wow, this is nice. A lot like Trump’s tastes.”

        Then They’d get top the top and see the grandeur of Eagle’s Nest and the incredible view. They may never have realized Germany was quite properous during the early third reich

        Then they’ll get to the monument and museum portions. They’ll be reminded of the 7 million dead and the horrors of genocide and authoritarians

        I think that’s a good event to get the gears in their head turning. Whether it’s direct parallels like Hitler’s gold elevator resembling Trump’s affinity for gold, or the understanding that the Holocaust was only possible with the indifference of the average German who was content to live in relative luxury

        Many Nazis supported Hitler because of the same mundane reasons the average person supports Trump or Putin. Promises of lower cost of living, increased income, prestige on the global stage, and most importantly a scapegoat to blame problems on

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          2 hours ago

          I’m going to just gloss over your extremely naive scenario where these Nazi lovers go to the top of the elevator and then open their eyes and learn something. Cuz I mean come on.

          Instead let’s move on to this. This isn’t hypothetical. We already know that Nazis make pilgrimages to this place. Some of them even take pictures about it and then go on to be Republican legislators. This place which was always a monument to Hitler, still is. Or was maybe hopefully. This isn’t a matter of debate. You’re arguing for an active Nazi Monument to to which Nazis make pilgrimages to.

          I’m all for the museums. I’m all for the remembrances. Build them. But I don’t want to keep the God damn Hitler monument. Also I don’t know if you fucking noticed, but it ain’t stopping history from repeating. So maybe a better way to stop history from repeating is to tear down The Monuments glorifying the history we would don’t want repeated. Then build your museums.