• Eldritch@piefed.world
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    13 hours ago

    With regard to the allies. The United States specifically. We’ve never had a healthy Reckoning with our past. They gave many Nazi scientists amnesty. And the fascist themselves were inspired by our own powerful racists and fascists. Who never felt repercussions who are why we are in the position we are in today.

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      12 hours ago

      America has never dealt with our past. It took me way too long to realize we did in fact prosecute a genocide on American Indians. And I’m from the Indian Territories and learned about the Trail of Tears in elementary school. I can’t think of knowing a single Native American in my whole life.

      The thing with the Nazi scientists I can let slide, given the times. We knew our next enemy would be Russia and wanted a leg up. It was either take them under our wing or let the Soviets have 'em.

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        11 hours ago

        Don’t feel too bad. As someone who was born into the tribe. Officially on tribal rolls. Received a settlement from the early '80s for treaties broken against our people over 100 years before. Attended a number of tribal cultural events as we tried to recover our heritage. Including my own naming ceremony. It didn’t actually strike me until my late teens early twenties just what my grandmother was talking about when she spoke of Indian School.

        Fortunately hers was not one of the ones you hear reported about sometimes in the northern United States and canada. But run by a different nearby tribe of the Wyandot. It was still about indoctrination and cultural Erasure to an extent. Just not the explicit tones of mass murder.

        Sometimes it’s Society hiding the skeletons in its closet. Other times it’s parents just wanting their children to have something better and not to be focused and bitter on things that can’t be changed. We couldn’t have known ourselves. But just because some things didn’t be changed doesn’t mean others couldn’t and shouldn’t. Such as people’s awareness of these things. The General public school education version that I got in the seventies and eighties was quite whitewashed and sterilized. And even then it was pretty bad.

        The Nazi scientists however I couldn’t get behind. Not because of any sympathies with Soviet Russia or the like. Just an aversion to the state. The state will always do what is easy. Rarely what is right. We had no business generally mucking around in the Cold War as we did. At best only a pyrrhic victory like Korea. Generally losing everywhere else and only increasing the death and destruction. In the end. It was the Soviets that brought themselves down. Not us or Reagan.