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  • Meat products are, per kilo, much more costly for their nutrient profiles compared with plant based alternatives. Any time meat is comparable, this is because of government subsidies. There’s a reason third world countries rely on plant based foods, because they’re objectively cheaper.

    There are many cultural practises that we’ve left in the past. Culture is not an excuse for doing objectively amoral things. I can’t say it’s my culture to sacrifice children, even if it is.

    I’d put convenience under the umbrella of pleasure. If we all lived our life based on convenience, people would drink drive, people wouldn’t care about consent, just because it’s easier doesn’t mean it’s right.

    If my morality was based on whether it cause friction with my family, what weak morals I would have? “In this house, we say the N word!”, “okay yes sorry mum, here I go saying the n word again!” Like, stick up for what’s right, don’t crumble because it might upset those who are objectively morally incorrect.

    Plant based food is objectively cheaper, culture doesn’t permit amoral acts, convenience isn’t a valid reason to do wrong, and if mild social pressure from family is enough to cause one to act immoral, then those morals were pretty flimsy to begin with.

















  • You did say “I love meat, let me assure you”. That’s pretty proud.

    Firstly, other moral goods don’t rebuff moral wrongs. Owning solar panels doesn’t mean it’s morally okay to kill animals for your tastebuds.

    “I don’t think me eating less meat will have much effect”. I mean, if everyone thought like you, global warming might happen. If everyone thought like vegans, (and went vegan today) we’d literally solve the climate crisis. Animal agriculture accounts for 40-60% of total emissions.

    How can you be concerned about growing meat consumption in other countries? “Gee I sure hope people don’t act like me, that’d be concerning!”. Rules for thee.

    That’s not to mention the antibiotic crisis where treatment resistant bacteria are developing in animals due to overuse in livestock. Or the development of animal flus like birdflu, corona virus, swine flu, ebola etc etc, which emerge from consuming animals.

    You’re doing so much good, why not do the little extra step of going vegan? It’s so easy nowadays. Good for you, good for the planet, good for the animals. There’s no practical downside?


  • No more danger than eating puffer fish. Avoid the brain and spinal tissue, you avoid the risk of a prison disease. Besides, if we’re talking about dangers to our health, veganism is quantifiably healthier and correlated with longevity.

    And what do you mean “non-pet” dogs? Why wouldn’t you want to eat your pets? They live a much happier life before their slaughter, and it’s easier to manage the texture of their meat when they’re live-in stock.

    You haven’t thought this through much, huh?


  • Going vegan is such a money-where-your-mouth-is move. If you’re left enough to know the damage meat eating causes, yet you still eat meat, how are you better than the industries you call out?

    So much right wing bullshit is based on greed, yet left wing meat eaters can’t make the single most significant consumer change because “bacon too yummy lol”.

    All these great left wing youtubers, as soon as I see they’re not vegan my respect drops in half.