Let’s agree to disagree. I think it’s the single best thing to come to the desktop in the last decade and using containers as build environments has made my workflow immensely better.

Our documentation guy cooked so hard he got burnt out, please read them they’re excellent.

Legitimately if you’re a programmer and you think using a container is a pain in the ass, you should stop programming.

Source: 20 plus years software engineer, if I didn’t have containers I would go ahead and hurry along my retirement.

Bro I’m the lead developer and I’m just now seeing this, just accept you called the viral marketing wrong.

We’ve grown to the point that when I market something, I tell people not to listen to me because I’m biased.

I’m not sure how you’ve decided the term is vague but it doesn’t matter, it’s a decade old term with an entire foundation built around it that’s part of the Linux Foundation.

You should tell them it’s vague. The truth is users with your opinion are not a growth target, I’ve dealt with maybe three of you in over 9 million downloads.

I appreciate the input. You and I had the same opinion which is actually why I went with container native in the first place. I was trying to avoid the word cloud because I felt that some gamers would misconstrue it.

The reason I’ve changed it back and made it accurate is that I feel we have reached the point of saturation where some benefit of the doubt is present, and the word cloud may lead people to look twice rather than just run away.

I did make sure to watch our numbers before and after that change and I saw no discernible difference in bounce rate or ISO download growth rate. In fact in a previous comment in this thread I said we had 400TB/no in ISOs - That is now 460TB not even a couple days later.

One other way to look at it to is it benefits us twofold, in one sense we’re getting cloud nerds like you and me interested in a fun new toy that is directly in our wheelhouse (and we want those, cloud nerds are quality engineers and contributors), and in another, we’re showing both windows users and existing Linux users an ironically lesser known part of Linux among desktop users – cloud native – despite it being probably the biggest money maker in Linux. People can contribute to Bazzite who might have never done anything in the Linux space before and accidentally find themselves on the path to a real paying Linux job.

I’ll check it out, thanks

Thanks! Our entire ujust/first run process is very much a work in progress and we’re trying to improve it asap.

We are averaging 400TB/mo in ISOs and it’s increasing. If lay-users are turning away in numbers greater than random noise I’m not seeing it. If Linux users who argue about definitions of already defined words on Lemmy are – that’s not a growth target.

I got to buzzword and then I gave up reading. I’m going to go ahead and continue to double down on it until I don’t see comments like this.

Multiple definitions have been provided, there is an entire cloud native computing foundation of which members of it are part of Universal Blue, and it’s an incredibly common thing in any professional paid Linux job. I understand a small subset of users (Most of which are going to be Windows Gamers) might think cloud native means it’s running in the cloud, but the website quite literally links to something that says that’s not the case, and I’m okay suffering a few people not getting it.

Part of the stated goal is to push forward cloud native and this model for the Linux desktop. If people want to learn about it there are resources available to do so.

I did a couple interviews on this just recently, you can see them here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhwNgfE5BwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnQze1dMf2U&t=41m42s

If you have any further questions after these, let me know and I’ll be happy to expand on it further!

Thanks Jorge. Just confirming that this is the single most complete reply. I couldn’t have asked for a better explanation.

Yes

No

Founder here, the more I see this whining the more I want to keep it on the website.

It’s the accurate definition.

Hey there, I’m the founder of Bazzite. Just wanted to confirm that we have no interest in VC funding. It says it’s cloud native because it’s cloud native, not because we’re marketing to people with too much money and a lack of sense.

At this point when people tell me the website runs like shit I just laugh and tell them they’ve been filtered. That does 120 FPS on a phone, if you’re lagging on that site just go ahead and give up on gaming.

We solve this problem by treating distroboxes as cattle and not as pets. Blow them away at any time.

Which btw also include the Fedora Flathub repository.

We no longer touch the repos as Fedora is now in agreement with using Flathub.

You start to sound like a GrapheneOS dev. It makes no sense to prevent users from reinstalling removed packages.

It’s for user security. I have no interest in debating this decision, my reasons are outlined.