who was in secret communication with Putin the whole time

uhhhhh what?

how many people in your family have lived in active war zones?

people like you are

That’s Mark Twain there, not me . . .

dozens more were merely the victims of interpersonal disputes or insufficient doctrinal purity

Actually the vast majority of people executed in the Reign of Terror were from the war in the Vendee, which was much more about (a) the struggle between Paris and the countryside even in matters of language and (b) the Catholic church versus the Parisian government. And the ideological fights were between established groups of the Girdons and the others.

Ideological purity, while often taken in the dramatizations of the Reign of Terror, was a minor thing. But the narrative of the unchecked masses baying for blood was pushed after the reestablishment (and bloody White Terror) that followed Robespierre, and then again Napoleon,'s downfalls.

People you’d dismiss as collateral damage to your grand dream have lives worth no less than yours

The exact point of the Twain quote that you’re ignoring is that the current system runs on blood. You want to make a moral case of decrying the deaths the revolution brings - while ignoring that literally millions are being killed by the current order as you speak. Do they not count?

“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

Leaderless horizontal movements, while historically understandable, are unable to move forward as needed to effect change and hold power.

it’s kind of funny how you, oh wise enlightened centrist, are the only one to ever figure out that the thing that makes you comfortable just happens to be always right!

please read the book If We Burn.

We need to learn from Occupy and why it failed, so the next time (which is likely coming soon) it won’t.

to make the people doing these things afraid of the consequences of doing so, and so not do them

If nothing else, a riot threatens commerce. People aren’t buying things when there’s a riot, even if nobody is looting.

yeah, if you haven’t noticed, running on support for forever wars isn’t very popular

It makes the protest look like a wild riot

This is not a bad thing. A protest that doesn’t offer the threat of a riot is nothing but a parade.

yeah, that’s what I said

which is already illegal in the US

So, by that logic, lemmy.world is controlled by the NSA?

I think they mean magic suicided, not child raped

I was supposed to be, and chose to stay in NYC and get drunk with my friend instead. Much better use of time it turns out.

restore some sanity

Didn’t you guys promise that in 2010 with Jon Stewart?

Great - so Chuck Schumer can do nothing, but when Trump implodes the Democrats are there to take the blame.

They serve only one purpose currently - keeping the left from having any political power. There’s a reason they hysterically demand you vote blue no matter who - it’s not because it works (the past 3 decades show that). It’s because without that, they’d be out of jobs, and an actual opposition party would be required.

such could save lives in Iran.

Where have the Democrats said they’re going to stop the war in Iran?

I’m honestly asking - the only stuff I’ve seen is the same nonsense they tried in 2004 of “well, the war should be fought better”, ignoring that the war itself is literally a war crime.

No, but you need to arrest George Bush