And yet here you are yet again, jumping to the defense of those who are advocating for not voting and participating in the system and calling Democrats Nazi’s and trying to make a case for them. If you’re trying to win over hearts and minds about people voting progressive, you sure do suck at it and pick the worst threads to jump on by choosing to defend those who are advocating for not voting.

Man, we’ve had this discussion a time or two already here on lemmy after you’ve jumped in after these guys who make it clear they’re proud of not voting and you never seem to get that one can hold the Democratic party overall as ineffective jackasses and yet still realize that Republicans are worse in every conceivable way and get all upset when you’re both sides everything, acting like Oprah with “you’re a genocider and you’re a genocider”, call everyone a Nazi when only one side is actually doing salute in pubic viewpoints gets shit on. If you’re proud of your vote for Trump or not vote for Harris over the Gaza situation then fine, want to continue to teach Democrats a lesson sure, that’s your prerogative but you also have to deal with the fall out that is reality now.

Also, you can say what you will about Democrats, they suck. Yeah they do. That they’re ineffective. Yeah, I’m tired of Jefferies and Shumer talking about bipartisanship too. But if you actually think that Democrats are no better than MAGA and their polices are no different and you refuse to vote then your opinion holds no weight and you’re not living in any type of reality here, all you have to look at is DOGE, his cabinet members.

You want the Democrats to change then fucking vote in the primaries and back a progressive but when you don’t get your candidate, don’t throw a kiddie tantrum and not vote and spout off both sides nonsense and sit out because your team didn’t win. You’ve have and had people that are fighting for change of the democratic party, and yeah it sure seems slow but progressives such as Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Lee, Bush, Crockett and Pressley have made it into congress but again, change takes time and it 's been forty years of this so change isn’t happening overnight. If you guys want to keep sitting out because of the sham of a “democracy”, which again thanks to Americans not voting this election we won’t have to deal with “democracy” ever again, then fine but don’t expect change if you do and stop complaining when nothing does change.

And as for reality, you do have to deal with Trump and MAGA now on anything related to the middle east so good luck with that there isn’t a single Democrat or Progressive that’s in charge of that now.

Yup no problem, glad you’re happy with how things turn out! Hope future elections work out for you in the same way! Go team Ned Flanders parents!

Well good news! You don’t have to deal with Democrats anymore!

Have fun dealing with the Republicans on this now!

This is really sick but at the same time that’s what you get for supporting monsters.

Election’s over, Harris lost. Deal with it.

I"m pulling for you Canada. Don’t do what the US did.

Not surprising to say the least. Just have to wonder how bad will it get.

Edit: well that didn’t take long. https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-gaza-ceasefire-should-end-saturday-if-hostages-not-released-2025-02-10/

Everyone here’s rehashed and rehashed and rehashed, I’ve seen the same people come back with the same things over and over again on these threads.

I mean it’s cathartic to a point but damn, one thing you don’t see a lot of “what the fuck am I going to do about it”. Well outside of those going I’m never going to vote again people.

The Democratic party isn’t going to do a thing on their own at this point, leadership is too old, ineffective, unwilling to change without a shit ton of external stimulus. Had a nice discussion thread about calling your rep and yeah, kind of came to the conclusion that the Democrats should be doing this on their own but they’re just too dumb and scared so I’m going to call them even though I’m never going to like them.

For me, I’m also going to increase my donation to progressive groups this year because unfortunately moving to another country isn’t in the cards for me and then maybe phone bank again, though that’s going to be rough because damn voters are stupid.

Except people aren’t rehashing it to learn, everyone is just rehashing things to assign blame.

Fuck, Republicans had their whole postmortem and even they managed to learn and now control all three branches of government.

True. But at the same time you’re not going to get any of that by not voting and letting Republicans get elected. I mean get you butts out there and primary these centrist lead weights.

Look, the only way for this to end is for humanity to die. That’s it.

Well if it isn’t my old nemesis, unintended consequences.

I would be so tickled if this was the catalyst for stricter gun laws and enforcement.

He pissed off the two biggest trade partners, already fucked over farmers with China with the last round of tariffs that never recovered, and most of the EU. Him and his idiot brain trust isn’t exactly swimming in markets.

Also he doesn’t want to source anything from anywhere, he’s stuck in some dementia addled past that never existed where America produced everything and thinks he can do this overnight.

So that would give Canada and Mexico to diversify and find alternative markets after Trump capitulated.

May the American people enjoy the fruits of their voting and sitting on their asses.

Takes a special kind of genocidal asshole to be upset at a message calling for NOT killing kids.

Just personally, I find that the toxicity around here just around group think is a little worse than reddit. It’s different but it can be a lot worse, especially with the way people on Lemmy use downvotes.

Canadians, it’s not a joke. This fucker is god damn stupid, insane, and has a ton of money and power, beware.

So close to being a empathetic human while not being a corporate shill.