That’s in the docs right?

Good to know about the majority with GD script. That means it will be easier to find tutorials and scripts without needing .net.

Thanks, I’ll check it.

I’m not a programmer so I won’t go very far anyway with the scripts. Plus I’d rather not get involved with anything related to microsoft if I don’t have to, even if it’s open source.

And I’m amazed at how small Godot is. The .net extra seems to be much bigger than the engine itself.

Thanks. I’ll check it out.

3D. I’m hoping it’s mature enough now. Seeing the release notes it seems that only recently they have some things unity always had, but I’m not expecting parity. It will be just a hobby. But maybe I can make something nice. Plus, it’s open source so that’s awesome.

Problem being I don’t know how that would work, especially since banks would probably hate freedom respecting systems.

Yeah, that’s the thing, I don’t think it’s possible without becoming as evil as the alternative. If it is, I’m all for it. But my freedom comes first.

Australia will lose cash over time. All first world countries will. You can’t stop “progress”. It’s just a matter of how long, and then how long until you are not a citizen without Google play on your phone. Or considered disabled, which is already happening.

I’ll be honest that I don’t know how it works because I never cared. What I know is that it doesn’t work with root or most roms, it removes my freedom because my phone can’t be “trusted”, so any other issue it has is not important. Even if it was more private than cash. It needs Google to “trust” my phone and I really, seriously trust a thief more than Google.

Cards are another massive issue but it’s a problem so widespread that there’s nothing I can do about it anymore. I use cash whenever I can but I know humanity and it will die soon because people don’t care.

And later tap to pay will be mandatory and if you don’t have spyware (Google play, apple) on your phone you can’t buy anything anymore.

The present is bad, the future is horrible.

Not that I own all these, but what do they have to do with my phone? I don’t see any connection to those except where I wanted to create it.

I’m not stopping you from wanting your apple/Linux phone. Or anyone from making it. I’m just saying that I believe that my interests are similar to a lot of people who care about open source, and therefore:

-The people who care about open source will not support that enough to be successfull (currently, as more people keep saying stuff like “I just can’t live without this convenience” it might change).

-The people who care about those conveniences that much don’t care about open source, privacy or freedom, and they won’t support it either. They will only support it if it’s even more convenient and lazy, and for that the apple/Linux phone would have to be even more evil than the current options.

So in my mind it’s a dead end, and I personally I don’t support it. But go for it! And I do believe that over times those conveniences will be seen more and more as needs and soon we might have a Linux phone I wouldn’t want to use. But good for those who want it.

BUT just to be clear, I desperately want a Linux phone, yes! But my concerns are stuff like: does the hardware work well? does the camera work well? Does the GPS work well? What about signal with the telecoms? Battery lifre? You know, mostly hardware related with the software.

Tap to pay, car play, siri, all those things can be on the list, but way down on the bottom.

That’s a bit extreme. Some of those are not linked.

Yes you can not have cloud pictures without having to trust the server. But you can have an open source, inspected system that uses gps without any related data being shared. Gps doesn’t send data, it’s the system choice to create a way to send it to someone. You can have a Linux phone that doesn’t chose to do that.

You can have convenience with privacy, but the companies offering those services don’t want that, nor do the consumers care.

And those consumers would not care about a Linux phone.

It’s not the existence of the option. It’s the requirements it brings.

Which companies will this phone need to shake hands for that to work? What price will they have to pay? What risks does it bring to my privacy on that phone? What requirements will they have? Banks, car companies, credit card companies etc are not the kind of company I want to see involved in my system.

If magically you can have those agreements without any risk for me, then I’m happy with it. But it’s impossible. You want a different product than mine with those needs.

I need freedom and trust in my system and I would like convenience. You need convenience and would like freedom and trust. It’s a matter of how much you have to sacrifice of one to get the other. It’s a personal choice.

For example, even before Android shitified itself, tap to pay wouldn’t work if you have root or most custom roms. Is it the price I have to pay for your option? Limit how I can use my phone so that Banks can trust it? Imagine if I couldn’t use sudo on Linux because someone wants to bend over to a bank?

I would look for a different system.

Or, touch wood, using cash!

Imagine the horror. Something that can even work if there’s no internet at all, like the cave man used…

Or, sarcasm aside, besides working properly offline, it doesn’t give money to evil companies like visa. Then with the phone there’s yet another evil company profiting from you. And giving people the idea that it’s impossible to live without doing so.

It’s a little extra convenience for those who like it, sure, but it’s crazy to say they can’t live without it.

That’s the problem. The things you think “people” need is what they already have and it can’t be different. “I want to trust everything on a company online but I want my data to be private and safe.” You have to choose. For those people who think they “need” what you say, they already have apple and Google.

Just like Linux was never meant to replicate windows “features” like cortana and others, and it didn’t, and it works for those who don’t want those things which is why they want Linux.

The requirements for Linux to have your “needs” would make me not want it, and then it would just be a poor version of apple without the trillions of dollars that come with it. It wouldn’t please either side.

The things open source people care will always be a minority. It’s sad but it’s the reality.

No, at least not everyone.

I use phone or headphone to avoid talking to people. To minimize the risk of what you said you use to do might happen to me.

Not everyone loves being social. And I’m one of those people from before the internet. So phones didn’t make me this way.

From what you said, you are giving facebook what they want. They have no reason to block you. You have interacted a lot with the website and for a long time. They have learned much from you and your interests. If your pictures are fake or not it’s probably irrelevant to them.

What I’ll do, interact with their marketplace, is also in their interest and help them, which makes me hate myself for doing it and I’ll limit to only things I absolutely can not find outside of facebook. And I will try to find what I need outside first.

Specially with servers in the US I wouldn’t be too hopeful about it. Or at all.

But even if the server is in europe, if I were facebook I would certainly keep a room of backups labeled something else just in case. Unlikely fines in the present and possibly massive profit in the future for whatever reason. Why not? The thing is that no one should expect that info uploaded to the internet can be ever really deleted. There should be campaigns to make people more aware of that. As in “we made these laws to protect you, but the only real protection comes from you”.

Here in the united states of the south privacy laws are foreign concepts. But even if we had laws I wouldn’t trust it. What’s stopping them from making a backup of the data, deleting from the main server and saying “there, I did it”?

To me once the company gets your info, you lost it. But to still receive spam is a problem. I had the same issue with companies here. I would like to at least be removed from their spam list.

Thanks for that link, there seems to be a lot of useful stuff there! I can see teddit, which haven’t worked for a long time. But still interesting.

The less info they can collect on me, the less profitable I am and most likely to be blocked, I imagine. My objective and facebook’s objective are in direct conflict. Not giving them info and still interacting to people who use it is the challenge.

Yeah, after reading your post I searched and found a few. All looking super dodgy.

I’m sure they don’t care about people selling the account. However I get the account, as long as they can profit from me it’s all they would care. But I think it would go back to the initial reason they blocked me, because it doesn’t seem that I would be profitable.

So I’m not sure if going through one of those dodgy websites and buying that would not get the same result…

I am happy to pay for useful services to companies I trust, and facebook is possibly the last one on the list. Even if they told me they don’t track me I wouldn’t believe. Not they would be even allowed not to, being an american company…

Where?

I think there would be a good chance they would know I’m not the original owner, with all the changed behaviour, and then they would still block me.

But it’s something I didn’t think about… doesn’t seem like a good option, but an option still…

Oh… that’s bad. But I always imagined that that might do it. I just don’t know if I need them enough to go that far.

Unfortunately I think I know the answer and I’m not wanting to face it…

I wish there was something I could donate to help destroy facebook. I don’t want to give them 1cent, but I would pay a few thousand dollars if I thought I had a chance of removing its influence from my life.

Social websites are only worth the people using it. Here it’s only facebook unfortunately. There used to be gumtree which was great, but now it’s dead.

But so, do I need to use my real name? I imagine they have all sort of features to know if you are fake, and I don’t know what those rules are. I imagine it depends a lot on many things, like location, operating system, etc. I use Linux and Firefox, and just from that they probably know there’s a higher chance that I’m someone who hates facebook and might try to make a fake account.

I’ve done from maybe 3 different devices, so I don’t think that’s what fixes it.

They always let me make the account and use it. But on the next day, or even the same day, they block it.

Oh, but what are the proxy websites? That would already be a nice thing to know. I know I would have to log in on them, but I don’t know if facebook even allows a third party website to log people on.