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  • Wall of text incoming.

    1/ it will show the social media companies that, Australia at least; has tools that they can use to reduce their power.

    Holding platforms accountable to a bare minimum standard of moderation against misinformation, bullying and harassment might be a starting point.

    This would be great; but it is also too little too late. They have tried, and failed at exactly this for years.

    I don’t see how both these claims can simultaneously be true. Either Australia has tools to hold these companies to account, in which case, how would they have previously failed if they’d already tried? Or it doesn’t, and this is just one more completely futile policy that won’t give companies any more than the usual slap on the wrist if it ever goes to court.

    I argue that they didn’t try, because they never actually cared about children’s wellbeing, because if they did they’d have done better than this, ergo this policy isn’t really about that and is actually about making citizens more easily identifiable online.

    Additionally, it does nothing to reduce the power of seppo tech giants. On the contrary, they’ve got money, they’ll be fine. Independent social media sites however, don’t all have the resources to implement verification systems, so some will feel the financial burden of compliance a lot harder, and others will simply cease serving Australian users, further strengthening Silicon Valley’s hold over the internet.

    As I have said over and over again in this thread, what the ban will do is cut children suffering domestic abuse (a problem that is absolutely rife in this country) off from their support networks. It’ll cut minority kids that’re subjected to bullying by their peers off from their communities. It’ll drive more kids to shadier corners of the internet where they’re at greater risk of predation. I’m not being hyperbolic when I say this is going to get children killed.
    Furthermore—and again, as I’ve been repeating all over this thread—everyone—yes, that includes adults—will be required to submit personally identifiable information to private organisations just to communicate with other people online, making anyone in this country who uses social media a potential victim of identity theft the moment a data breach happens. And happen it will. It’s happened before, and it’ll happen again.
    What’s more, knowing that the platforms they’re using have their identities will make a great many people more hesitant to speak critically about existing power structures, especially the government. This is bad.

    I stand by my previously stated opinion that all this is worse than the status quo, but even if it weren’t you should be asking why this is the solution that the government came up with.


  • The stuff that causes a lot of the harm is just what people tend to do online…

    The online harms I’m concerned with are bullying, harassment and misinformation. Platforms should be required by society to moderate against these, or face penalties proportionate to revenue. Instead just banning under 16s, even if it could be done in a way that is both effective and respectful of everyone’s privacy (I’m not convinced that it can) would still be a lazy abrogation of this responsibility, still leaving kids vulnerable to the same behaviours in offline spaces and everyone else vulnerable to the harms purportedly being caused among the youth online currently.
    But the government isn’t interested in this because these behaviours serve to entrench existing social hierarchies, and the government—being in charge of the nation-state—likes existing social hierarchies.




  • No you ass. What do you want, for the parents to hover over their kids 24/7? There’s is no realistic way even the most well-intentioned parent could ever keep their kids off this stuff.

    Agreed.

    The “fault” here are social media companies spending billions to make their products as addictive as possible. And since they refuse to play nice, well, then this needs to happen.

    Two for two. With you so far.

    Or to put in words that might resonate with you more:

    It’s the government’s job to reign [sic] in disobedient companies

    I think I like where this is going…

    This is good parenting from the government.

    What? How did you make that jump??? No, you fucking dolt, this is abysmal. “Good parenting from the government” would be holding said companies accountable to a bare minimum standard of moderation against mis- and disinformation and bullying and harassment on their platforms. Cutting off the most vulnerable people in our society from their support networks is even more damaging than just doing nothing. Make no mistake, this will make it harder for children in abusive situations to find support, and is going to get people killed.

    And doing it by requiring social media sites to collect highly sensitive personally identifiable information from all users is leaving pretty much everybody more vulnerable to identity theft.

    What’s more is that this isn’t in any way reining in the tech giants. Au contraire, it’s further pushing control of internet communications into their hands because they’re the ones who have the money needed to implement the verification systems in the first place, while independently run sites that can’t afford to implement such systems will either just have to hope they can fly under the regulator’s radar or cease providing service to Australian users. Just look at the floating pile of rubbish off the French coast, just east of Ireland if you really need an example of a precedent.

    No wonder we live in such a fucking nanny state.



  • I figure holding tech giants directly accountable for the specific harms they’ve caused would be better than punishing an entire population but unfortunately our politicians are mostly either invertebrates who are too cowardly to pick fights with foreign corporate entities (so they’re useless drains of political will) or they’re actively supportive of them on the grounds of being ideologically pro-business (so, evil).

    They feed us their poisons (surveillance capitalism and an unhealthy information ecosystem driven by algorithmic optimisation for advertising revenue) so they can sell us their “medicines” (age gating and mandatory identification online—more data harvesting as a selling point to advertisers) while they suppress our cure (an internet by independent creators as opposed to capitalist brands)


  • Fuck this Helen Lovejoy-arse shithole country. I wonder how many abused youth, marginalised teens and kids who made the mistake of being born to parents living in remote areas just lost access to their support networks. I wonder how many people are gonna have their identities stolen because of data breaches containing either documents or biometrics necessary to enforce this.
    And for what? So boomer politicians and their constituents aren’t challenged by their well-informed children about the genocides they’re facilitating at home and abroad? So the pigs in this police state have an even easier time surveiling citizens with all the identifying info websites are gathering??



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    Fr… I visited my ex last weekend for the first time since I broke up with her six months ago, and her cat spent all afternoon glued to me. At one point, he was just rolling around in my lap to get his scent all over me, so he clearly missed me quite a lot and still thinks of me as his human. my ex's Balinese cat sitting in a loaf on my lap with his back to the camera