Stop asking and just ban it already

That’s a waffleturd take if I’ve ever seen one

Did you even read what I wrote? Are you willfully ignoring the points that I made? God, how do you expect to get anywhere like this 🤦‍♂️

Sorry but you don’t understand how this works.

It doesn’t make sense when you say:

they can use the money and resources for something else.

For example. The US arms industry exports were worth 238 Billion $ in 2023. That means that the arms industry brought 238 billion from outside the US to inside the economy

Because the money is coming from outside. If the industry stops, the US will lose this money.

You are putting your convictions above logic. It doesn’t matter how hard you believe in something, if it is not practical it won’t work.

If your suggestions really make sense you should be able to convince at least a few people. But look at the responses you’re getting. How can you convince all the world leaders to change if you can’t convince a few people in the comments?

At some point you have to consider that you might be in the wrong. Admitting your mistakes makes you a better person and allows you to grow in character. I kindly ask you to consider that.

My guy, I’m going to finish this conversation here. I hope this was useful. Cheers!

Brother, I respect your principles but you’re not understanding the issue with having no military.

First you would have to convince all countries in the world to cut all military budgets. Including convincing countries that would suffer economically from the extinction of the arms industry.

And once all countries have 0 military, there is an incentive for aggressive leaders to produce weapons since it would be easy to win a war against an unarmed country

Disarming a country is an impossible mission because it only works if the entire world agrees to it, and because it makes everyone vulnerable once someone decides to break the agreement.

I hope you can see it clearly now. Unless you have a proposal that fixes the two points above, your 0 military plan would not work

I’m happy to discuss more if you’d like

Unfortunately a strong military is necessary to maintain peace

It might sound contradictory at first but you should consider that people will always disagree. And if you and your neighboring country disagree and they have 20x more military power than you, they might be inclined to use force to solve your differences

The only thing that allows you to have a civil and diplomatic discussion is the assurance that war is the worst of the options. As we see today, strong military nations are not afraid to abuse weaker military powers.

I understand the hate towards the production of weapons, and I’m with you. But defunding the military is a simplistic, utopian argument that unfortunately would not work in the present time

Wow XD you are so quirky! Haha =P

Mine is a whale. Cause I’m big and fat and eat a lot of garbage and I shit everywhere XDDDD

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The Right’s opinions are not fact based, so you cannot convince them with facts

Most rightwing supporters are driven by their emotions, and fall prey to fear mongering and emotional manipulation related to their already existing beliefs like racism and xenophobia.

To change emotional based beliefs you need to use compassion. They are not your enemy. They are misguided and manipulated souls that need help.

Treat them as your best friend

They won’t be open to arguments if they think you’re the devil. So you have to be their friend.

It’s not necessary to explain everything to them. You can’t change someone’s world view in one conversation. Just show that you’re a reasonable person that is trying to understand them. Gently ask them what their beliefs are and don’t be confrontational. With a bit of time they will open their eyes by themselves.

Not easy. but I think that this is what effectively creates change.

Consult a job coach. They will help you explore areas of your interest and expose you to jobs you didn’t know existed

It’s all appeal to emotion

A good narrative is captivating. It’s really simple and comforting to know that the world is good vs evil and you’re on the good side. Those guys are on the devil’s side and we must stop them at all costs or it will be THE END OF AMERICA!! ** Dramatic yelling **

It’s easy to convince less educated people using fear and misdirection. What are they gonna do? Check the sources and think critically about the topic? Lol

Convincing someone that thinks you’re their mortal enemy is difficult. That’s why you have to be their best friend. Show them that you care for their opinion and ask them to explain to you. Show genuine curiosity and then give them something to think about.

“Hey, I see your point man, but I don’t know enough about this so I’m not sure. Hey I’ve found this article that has some interesting points. What do you think?”

It’s not easy but I think this is what really creates change

I’d be scared to hear that. Those mfs have 40 thousand hammers!!

Of course i would appreciate it if we stopped selling weapons.

The West is not perfect by any means. (and I noticed you skipped answering my question about dictators with EU support)

My point is that country leaders have limited influence. They can’t influence everything like you seem to suggest

My brother what can they do?? They put diplomatic pressure and sanctions in place but there’s nothing more a country can do to influence another nation.

There are US and EU sanctions in Venezuela since years. But they still manage to live in their limited space.

Saudi Arabia is an Absolute Monarchy. They have a king and all that bullshit. The king is a de facto dictator BY DESIGN. that’s their constitution.

What do you expect us to say?? “hey, how about you abolish your whole political system? Because you know… We kinda don’t like it”

I don’t like it either bro but it is what it is. We have to live with that bullshit. Unfortunately there is no solution to everything

Name a dictator that gets political support from the EU

Remember to be your enemy’s best friend!

when you criticize someone your objective is to help them form a better opinion. If you simply point out that their opinion is wrong it’s likely that they will consider your argument as an attack on their values or self. At this point the argumentation is of no value

Instead talk to them like you would talk to your best friend. Listen and try to understand where their concern comes from, and ask questions that make them have to analyse their own opinions.

You need to help them see what their biases/emotions won’t let them. It takes patience and compassion.

Western powers are willing to recognise Putin as the ruler of the Russian Federation

“A European Union spokesman said the elections were not properly monitored, nor conducted in a free and fair way. The governments of the UK, Germany and the US echoed this.” -BBC on the Russian 2021 elections

Here’s the article

This has always happened in the past Russian elections. The EU doesn’t push harder on this topic because they know these efforts won’t influence Russia

On Venezuela however, there’s a lot more chance that international pressure will cause changes. Maduro GTFO!

This sounds so stupid in my head. I hate it

Doesn’t matter how much you bomb Mexico. If there is a demand for drugs there will be a supply. No matter the price. A drug addict will do ANYTHING to get it

Cutting the supply would only work if you’re somehow able to cut almost all supply for 30 years straight, until the currently addicted people die off or sort themselves out

To stop the drugs you need to stop the demand for drugs. Treat addicts instead of arresting them. And oh my god stop prescribing literal Opioids as “treatment”

The point here is not that this comment hurts trump in some way. But that it hurts democracy. It favors violence over reason.

Many believe that the world might be better if trump was dead, but on the other side, if assassination is an acceptable solution to politics then democracy is destroyed.

The people that are against Trump are also against fascism. And supporting his murder is contradictory and essentially hurts your own cause.

Choosing to be fair and respectful to your enemy is the best course of action. Even though it might be extremely frustrating.

Pulls existence from the void

This point is highly dependent on whether or not you believe there is some sort of soul or existence before birth. I cannot argue on this point since this is pure belief, so I will accept your view for the sake of the discussion

Questions how not doing so could have prevented suffering

You could say it prevents suffering, but it also prevents Joy, Love, Friendship. Sure it also prevents Sadness and Grief and so on. It prevents everything by way of not giving life a chance.

If you think you cannot provide a happy life to your children then it’s perfectly valid to not want children. But it’s egoistic to think that other people should not have kids because of your own world view.

Many Antinatalists believe that life in the current world is filled with so much suffering that it’s not worth being born.

But that’s like… Your opinion man! Let people make their own choices