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I use these too. The “team sports” nature of it all is really deeply engrained, like a “water is invisible to a fish” kind of way. You can use that to surprise them and build some genuine curiosity sometimes.

It’s really disarming and opens up convo when I seem to disagree with them on everything… but then just agree and help them attack whichever hideous Democrat they go after during a given conversation. Same for news, the conversation shifts in useful ways when they learn I dislike “their” (Fox and worse) news, as well as what they think of as “mine”.

It’s not enough to magically deprogram anyone, but it can start the gears turning. In my experience it usually takes the situation from two people standing across from each other fussing at one another, to two people standing together fussing at everything else. It’s a start.

He’s in a position of leadership at a national organization bearing the name of the country doing the genocide. And it’s too much to find out what he thinks about it before allowing him to perform at an event they themselves organized?

That’s a bullshit argument - this story is about one guy, and your attempts to generalize it into something that applies to everyone are dishonest.

All of this protracted benefit of the doubt you’re giving him, this moralizing, bleating “but he might be secretly a good person!” - why?

Your answer doesn’t matter. I know why, and the rest of us do too. Goodbye.

“Well then why aren’t the posts here full of [thing]?”

“What? Here specifically is literally full of [thing]”

“Yeah I know, but [different argument]”

This is what you sound like lol

This habit of asking questions that you incorrectly believe have obvious “gotcha” answers, and which don’t really relate that closely to the issue at hand…really not providing the rhetorical weight you’re hoping for.

The folks running that festival have every right to curate who they invite to perform. That really has nothing to do with what I choose to consume, but yes, I do consider the people behind whatever entertainment I might want to enjoy, as well as where I’m willing to shop. We all should, to whatever degree we can manage. Stupid question.

Finally - these folks are in the business of hosting musical performances, that’s the thing they are there to do, and cancelling one is precisely the opposite of their business model. You understand that right? Don’t you think ANYONE in that position would reach out to the guy and give him the chance to clarify? Don’t you think they did exactly that, and ended up discovering he’s probably a fuckin Zionist?

Anyway, your arguments are too bad to continue to rebut. See ya later.

More moving goalposts. Is he banished from the sane parts of the world? Or did he just have a concert canceled?

Let’s look at your question phrased like you’re arguing in good faith instead! Goes like this:

If you’re a U.S. citizen should you have to publicly denounce Trump’s fascism or else risk having your public performances canceled in sane parts of the world?

It was a shitty “gotcha” in the first place, but boy is it worse when it’s accurate. No wonder you resorted to hyperbole.

I mean, respectfully, what the fuck are you talking about? An enormous amount of content on the fediverse in general, not just here, is literally public disavowal and complaints about our regime.

As a US citizen and seeing what’s happening to this place, yes, I would recommend everywhere find out where a given American stands on various issues when deciding to allow them in or not. Easy question.

Such half-assed, predictable, lazy moving goalposts here.

“All Jews now…” (extraordinary statement from you)

“Well no, how about because he’s a citizen of the country perpetrating a genocide, crime of all crimes?”

“Yeah exactly, in this specific case they’re targeting him cuz of his national origin!” (roughly an entire galaxy away from your original claim)

If you’re being disingenuous (my assumption) - go fuck yourself. If you’re actually just this bad at thinking and argumentation, strongly consider sticking to reading the comments of others.

Feel like saying more about what ya like?

Just in the name of completeness, I wouldn’t say that’s the only downside. I definitely have some stability issues with Bazzite, only when gaming though. But game crashes, occasional OS crashes, that hasn’t been exactly rare for me. But I will say, gaming is about the one thing in my life I’m almost unwilling to troubleshoot these days. Could be something specific to my setup that is uncommon for others, making my data point unhelpful.

And by and large, I’d absolutely recommend it for any Windows user who wants an easily transferable user experience and broadly fantastic gaming support with minimal fuss.

Would you be willing to say more about what you know / experienced about the removal of Discover? Preferences included? I only noticed it recently, been away from things for a bit, and you sound like your brief info would probably be at least as fruitful as the reading I was gonna look for :)

You could actually do it! If you founded a small dynasty of humans willing to type relentlessly for many hundreds of years, in succession.

I was just fooling around.

If you think you’re too good to get your hands dirty planting new-cat seeds, and you just want to enjoy them once they leave the vine, you’ve really got some thinking to do.

I think it’s probably being in the age range that kinda straddled the time between now - when it’s all an unshakeable piece of daily life - and the time before it existed / was commonplace. Having grown up before all of these world changing tech advances, and then being there for the ride, is just a singular experience and perspective neither our parents or our kids can possibly have.

I’m really grateful for having gotten to take the ride, but it does strike me as sad in a way.

I’m advocating for a mixed approach that serves more kids, and arguing that you had such a mixed approach yourself but don’t seem to acknowledge it.

Memorization (done properly, that is - I invoked “spaced repetition”, an evidence-based learning technique from the field of education, you’re the one talking about corporal punishment from nuns) is effective in precisely this and related domains having tons of minutiae.

It’s not that learning the process is inefficient, that’s not what I meant - learning only the process and not focusing on rote memorization as well leaves you with only the process to rely on when learning further math (your experience sounds like you got both, regarding multiplication).

Relying on only rules/processes to complete intermediate steps that are not the subject under instruction is what is inefficient. Using rules to reach simple multiplication facts when trying to learn algebra or even just long division is brutal for kids with any attention difficulty whatsoever. By the time they’ve solved the multiplication answer they wanted, they’ve lost the thread on the new concept. Rote memorization reduces the effort needed to use multiplication when learning everything else. It doesn’t feel that you’re reading very carefully here, but it could be me who failed to make myself plain.

I myself am a process guy and high on pattern-seeking. I write software for a living and live in abstractions layered on abstractions - even the physics is invisible lol, nothing (but fans and I guess HDD heads where still used) ever moves. It all feels like pretend!

My point is that understanding processes and relationships in the space of numbers can arise FROM being forced to learn many small truths over and over. A student can identify patterns (the shortcuts) from just learning the facts. Similarly you can get to the facts if you understand the process - like most math there’s a lovely symmetry there that you seem unwilling to agree with me about. They both inform and train the brain differently and you seem to have benefitted from that yourself.

We need both, and rote memorization is especially useful in a small number of domains, irreplaceable. Anyone who has gone through an Anatomy & Physiology class successfully will agree too, and I can give more examples. There’s no “process” or rules involved.

Anyway, I think we’re mostly talking past each other and probably mostly agree.

You’re a real one!

I don’t mean to be picking fights with you but this is a topic I care about - I really think it’s a mistake to say “I was exposed to this material much earlier and therefore picked it up faster and more robustly” and then claim that’s an argument against rote memorization. Especially considering how few kids are keeping up in math. Your experience was very fortunate and largely uncommon.

The rules and shortcuts you’re describing are absolutely part of the work I’m doing with my daughter, but they go hand-in-hand with the “spaced repetition” (ish) approach we’re focusing on, of just iterating a lot. One without the other is much weaker - mnemonics are extremely valuable aids, but none of it sticks without repetition. I’d say that all tasks involving remembering lots of minutiae (contrasted with remembering processes) greatly benefit from mnemonics, but fully require rote memorization practice in order to have the dexterity needed for quick recall that doesn’t get in the way. So things like chemistry, anatomy, case law.

It’s true that multiplication can be kept strictly a “learn the process” task, but your other points kind of just say that the repetition that comes in a person’s life later on finishes that work / replaces the dedicated memorization phase. And frankly the process you went through sounds like it involved a standard amount of repetition, you just had a head start so it didn’t feel as new or as uncomfortable.

I say only learning the processes is extremely inefficient and will make learning any more advanced math much, much harder. Lacking that strong basis of recall, kids have to think to do the multiplication that is merely an intermediate step and not at all part of the material being learned, moving forward. This reduces (greatly) their ability to engage with the actual subject matter because they are already working to complete the intermediate steps. I’ve seen it happen firsthand - I think you mean well, but I think your POV on multiplication is way wrong and actually harmful here.

E: I’m conflating mnemonics with arithmetic shortcuts here, I hope you’ll forgive that. They’re related - remembering one arithmetic shortcut gives you access to many answers, and usually mnemonics serve a similar “get lots of stuff for one significant remembered thing” kind of role.

Completely agree with you. But hilariously, 9 stacks of 6 bricks only accounts for 54 of them…please don’t change it lmao