I’m not American

Somehow every attempt to reason with people like you ends up to you getting pissed and ending the discussion.

I’m interested in real life solutions. Not fantasies. You can advocate for ‘stopping genocide and oppression everywhere’ all you want. Religious extremists like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and ISIS couldn’t care less about your wishes. Death for Isreal and death for America is what they want and they’ll happily tell you this.

Despite the high number of civilian casualties, Israel is actually doing a better job at it that the US has with their skirmishes in the middle east. It’s not like they’re not trying to minimize the civilian casualties, Hamas just makes it really hard by using their population as human shields.

Also, if you look at the videos of Israeli civilian hostages dragged thru the streets of Gaza after the october 7 invasion, there’s a good number of palestinian civilians cheering. Would the Israeli population be doing the same thing were IDF to drag raped Palestinian women thru the streets of Israel? I doubt it.

Hamas is a death cult. There’s no negotiating with them. The only solution is their complete destruction and showing the world that these views will not be tolerated. It’s the average muslim who suffers the most because of these religious extremists.

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A good number of left-wing politicans in my country would be considered right-wing in the USA.

So what’s the harm in at least giving into their demands?

If people refused to vote because both candidates support Israel, then whose to say that suggesting to withdraw that support wont make an equal or greater number of people to then vote for the candidate who does?

trans, blacks, and other minorities

To be fair, a good number of people voted for Trump because of identity politics as well

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

I’d rather lose my hearing than vision if those are the only two options, despite not actually wanting to lose neither - which is not an option.

The point was that both are morally wrong and I still keep doing it.

I don’t feel like defending a view that I don’t hold. I don’t get the sense from your replies that you’ve even understood my argument.

Without the current economic model, no-one would pay for big budget productions

I haven’t said that.

It doesn’t, as you imply, reduce the likelihood of big budget media existing in the future

I haven’t said that either.

a centralised fund we all contribute to in proportion to our means

Correct me if I’m wrong but that sounds a lot like paying for the content

many small scale investors… …like Kickstarter

This sounds like paying for the content too.

a legislated solution that protects copyright until artists are sufficiently recompensed

Recompensed? Sounds like getting paid.

To me it seems like there’s no disagreement here.

I stand by what I said: if everyone pirated, no one would be making or funding big-budget movies because there would be no money to be made. Coming up with alternative payment systems for the media we consume is all well and good, but that’s not piracy - it actually just reinforces my point about paying being the moral thing to do. My argument isn’t that the current system is good; it’s that piracy wouldn’t be sustainable if everyone started doing it.

I think it’s objectively a true statement that the vast majority of big budget hollywood movies, video games and TV-series would stop existing if nobody was paying for them.

Obviously not all media would go away. I’ve never gotten paid for my photography or YouTube videos because I’m not making them for money. Same applies to a ton of other content creators as well.

The only reason there’s content for us to pirate is because there are still people paying for it. If it weren’t for them, nobody would be spending millions on new movies or games. They’re the ones funding our content, and we’re just freeriding.

I think a good measure for morality is to imagine wether the world would be a better place if everyone acted as I do. In this case, I don’t think it would.

I think piracy is immoral but I still partake in it and I don’t hate anyone for doing so.

It’s like eating meat.