• baines@lemmy.cafe
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    ok and?

    i’m talking about the individual as a whole

    they distort markets in their personal lives too

    this shit isn’t positive, go look at what Elon is doing outside his business as we speak, so like i said, externalities

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      Is Elon spending $150 million to support Paxton good? Absolutely not. But to say $150 million will have no impact in the Texas economy is also just putting on blinders, even if it is for a bad cause.

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          Money spent on a bad cause is bad ya, but it’s still money in the economy. My initial reply was around OP’s comment of “wealthy people actually bring very little into an economy,”

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            ok but money spent in bad ways does not benefit the economy as a whole, often it doesn’t even interact with the majority of the economy

            op isnt wrong

            again this is pretty standard trickle down economics and not new, there are decades of studies on this

            it generaly gets lumped as an externality cost and market warping and not a benefit

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              Trickle down as a reason to lower taxes doesnt work.

              It doesn’t mean that things still dont go down.

              This isnt about should we or should we not tax them. Yes we should tax them.

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                no i’m saying money isnt some magical positive in the economic sheet, not all expenditure is the same

                money spent can actually hurt economies

                ie lobbying for tariffs is the classic example

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                  1 hour ago

                  That’s fair, but ‘can’ doesn’t always mean it will, and I imagine most of these cases come down to politics?

                  What if Paxton loses? Also are you saying that everyone with lets say > $100 million is personally spending more money that will harm the economy rather than just regular spending which helps it?

                  Not taxing them in hopes they will spend more is wrong, but the do spend.

                  And not everyone is as bad as Musk when it comes to this and there are counterparts to him supporting the other side in similar (but maybe not as much) ways.

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                    again decades of study on this topic

                    not new, outliers im sure exist but as a rule bad

                    rather we just eat them to be sure