European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has said ⁠the European Union is opening the door for Canada to become the first associate member, a status that does not exist under the bloc’s ‌treaties.

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    Fuck that shit. Glad that election are coming fast and most member are dissatisfied with eu. That shit need to be reform quick

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      Nice statistic. You made it up yourself or did someone help you?

      "52% of Europeans tend to trust the EU, the highest result since 2007. In another 18 year-record, 52% of Europeans say they trust the European Commission. At the same time, 43% of EU citizens continue to have a positive image of the EU, while 38% have a neutral image and 18% have a negative image of the EU and 62% of EU citizens are also optimistic about the future of the EU. "

      https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3372

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        The extra gouvernemental organasition with leader that were never elected find they are the best and must pursue. What a surprise.

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          VdL is as elected just as any prime minister in a regular parliamentary democracy. Her Commission can also be voted out of office anytime by the directly elected EP.

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            So no citizen vote ? Seem like oligarchy to me.

            Yeah let’s the ruling class choose the mega ruler. It will certainly be in my best interest

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              So you support the destruction of the member states as well? Most of them are parliamentary democracies as well.

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                Mb ut doesn’t imply the same stuff at country lvl and a t multiple country lvl. I dont think u need public transport to do 500m doesn’t mean I dont think u need public transportation at all

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                  I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Nor do I have the faintest idea what it has to do with my comment above.

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                U had tow type of county in the eu. The one that give money and the other that get money. Unreal u dont know that. Look at how many country give more than they get.

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                  So you are saying that the EU is controlled by Germany, yet Germany is the one who has to give? At least get your arguments consistent if you don’t want look like someone merely repeating Russia’s talking points.

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                  Yes, the UK was one of those countries who “give more than they get”. Look where they are now. Why? Because the assholes who argued that they “give more than they get” conveniently forgot to mention all the advantages of being in the EU that are not directly money.

                  Please look further than the arguments of your favorite politician.

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        Yeah eu opposition can’t existe organically…

        Kinda strange to even think of that in the first place

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          They always call themselves critics, yet commonly demand its functional destruction. How does your “organic opposition” differ in its outcome from what Russia and the US proganda demands? Elaborate.

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            Cause my interest and country interest diverge from eu interest???

            My organic opposition is simply the defense of my interest .

            Which happen cause the eu doesn’t defend mine but rather German and globalist agenda which doesn’t suit my country.

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              Not a single concrete argument, just the “Its all just a German Empire” Russian conspiracy theory.

              Come back when you can answer my question from before.

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    This is the way. Strength in alliances and numbers. The Burger Reich is now a rogue state that should be considered as dangerous as Russia (if not more, given the mental instability of the Pedofuhrer) so we should do as much as we can to form a bloc capable of surviving the inevitable downfall of it.

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    It’s just occurred to me that if Europe is successful in creating this new status, it could also serve as a stopgap status to offer Ukraine until Ukraine meets the requirements for full membership.

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      Could also be applied to the UK and Switzerland, if they wanted it. Though in a more permanent way that’s similar to how they would use it for Canada, not the same way as for Ukraine.

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        Unlikely to include Switzerland; they seem to prefer to keep each agreement separate and subject to periodic renewal. Seems unnecessarily awkward to me, but that’s how the Swiss like it, I guess.

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          There is one defining aspect to the Swiss, and that is amoral greed. No involvements or entanglements with anyone or anything if it can at all be avoided, no responsibility to say no to any corrupt source of money. The corrupt, morally bankrupt but otherwise very solvent tax oasis for Europe, always ready and willing to take in anyone and anything with money. Nazi politicians looking to avoid the consequences of their policies, russian oligarch money, saudis, you name it. All are welcome as long as nobody does anything that would force the Swiss to take a stand.

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        Yeah, the EU’s reality is that they want candidate members, but not new members. The candidate status is a multi-stage process with requirements for the country, which can be dragged out for decades. As soon as the country joins properly, it can pull a Hungary and start demanding stuff from the EU and holding joint initiatives hostage with its votes, while backsliding in their own politics.

        I’m guessing the ‘associate member’ status is approximately like turning the candidate thing permanent, without obligation to ever make a country into a member or accept any demands.

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        Making this kind of special status for Canada, a country that is very obviously not in Europe and is basically on the opposite side of the planet and has zero geographic connection to Europe, is transparently about Canada being a white settler colony.

        Why not Egypt? We know why.

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          In 2026 the answer is very clearly “because Egypt is a military dictatorship”.

          Associate membership status would have been amazing as a democracy-stabilizing force in a few Arab Spring democracies during the 2010s. The example I’m mostly thinking of is 2011-2019 Tunisia, which actually had a chance at becoming a real democracy.

          Precedent: In 1974, the perspective for EU membership was a major stabilizing factor for the nascent Greek democracy, and locking it in 1981 was basically the masterstroke for the 3rd Greek Republic to stay democratic. Those 7 years were crucial. Similar stories for Portugal and Spain, after their own dictatorships.

          A similar window for the democracies of Tunisia and Egypt came and went and the EU failed miserably at throwing them a lifeline. But one can still dream. A post-apartheid Palestine/Israel for example might be a fantastic candidate for something like this, especially if Lebanon and Turkey join the process at the same time.

          We have to still beat back the latest wave of fascism, and we shouldn’t sell the bearskin before hunting down the bear. But one can dream.

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            They will never invite a non-white majority country to have the same associate status, except maybe Japan, since they’d be grandfathered in by Germany.