Bush Jr took you to the brink of that (after marching towards that cliff hard with other previous admins)… the US only needed a nudge to get there and electing a child rapist was like taking the off ramp into the void
So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don’t care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count?
I think when you say “most people don’t care” you are still just referring to the USA population
The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone’s personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion.
The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards.
It’s the same high-control, unhealthy policies though, that includes all the hate on LGBTQ+ people too. That was big in his terms, anti-gay ballot initiatives based on lies that hurt people, that turned out the prejudiced base to elect him and others that caused damage here and abroad. It’s always regress and ruin progress, and, yes, the latest maga version of the party is even worse.
Bush Jr took you to the brink of that (after marching towards that cliff hard with other previous admins)… the US only needed a nudge to get there and electing a child rapist was like taking the off ramp into the void
There’s a big difference from “we’re going to rename French fries” to “we’re going to invade Greenland”.
Bush did a ton of evil shit… let’s not pretend he was just a silly goose
What in the enhanced interrogations could you be talking about? The man just wants to paint puppies, why are you being so mean to him?
What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) to hate the US?
Before you answer, let me remind you that most people don’t care about anything that happens to anyone more than 100 km from them.
Bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? Those are far away and there’s always a war in the middle east.
Torturing people? Par for the course in America.
So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan?
So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don’t care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count?
I think when you say “most people don’t care” you are still just referring to the USA population
So invading Afghanistan and Iraq was justifiable enough for you?
The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone’s personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion.
The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards.
No, it didn’t, that’s the “knee-jerk” thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and “anti-semitism”.
Doesn’t matter “to me”, I was about public opinion, and it barely moved the needle, because at the end of the day, it didn’t affect the average Joe.
Didn’t even need to, I walked there fine.
It’s the same high-control, unhealthy policies though, that includes all the hate on LGBTQ+ people too. That was big in his terms, anti-gay ballot initiatives based on lies that hurt people, that turned out the prejudiced base to elect him and others that caused damage here and abroad. It’s always regress and ruin progress, and, yes, the latest maga version of the party is even worse.