Austria, Denmark, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Romania, Spain and Sweden are pushing to explore the idea of moving from unanimity to qualified majority in foreign policy.

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    21 hours ago

    Why should anyone have veto? Same goes for UN. The only thing it does is letting few being free to do whatever they want. Would terrorist country like US or Russia decide to nuke some smaller country? They have veto, so why not!

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      10 hours ago

      Or terrorist country like USA decide to kidnap President of another country and steal their Oil, for example.

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      21 hours ago

      The UN is a diplomatic platform, not a global government. The idea is that if the particular countries couldn’t veto, they’d leave the organisation altogether instead. Having everyone take part in the same diplomatic organisation is the main goal, not producing actionable resolutions.

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        20 hours ago

        So what is the point of it then? Small country roes something terrible, they get condemned. US murders people without any oversight.

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      The veto is the sole reason these institutions still exist. There’s no way in hell any member would give up that power.

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        19 hours ago

        You should put more thought into the arguments you make, because clearly 11 members would.

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          Cool, in the EU all countries have veto power. In the UN, all permanent members of the security council have veto power. You just need one of them to refuse to give up that power. In the EU, I believe this could somewhat work, but in the UN ? No way the US, China, Russia, France or the UK would give it up without leaving the institution.

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            I think that’s what OP meant. That changing the veto rule with the EU is something that’s possible. Your prior comment made it seem like the whole EU wouldn’t exist