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    We did have huge protests in multiple cities. I’m not sure why you expect them to result in immediate change when that typically takes years to happen. Hungary was under Orban for almost 20 years and they didn’t even force him out with a protest. Serbia hasn’t changed. Slovakia hasn’t changed. The list goes on.

    It doesn’t happen overnight or over a week. You’re basically demanding that we overthrow the government because we didn’t like the election results and it shouldn’t be surprising that people aren’t ready to do that. It takes a lot more than what Trump’s done to get people to that point.

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      We did have huge protests in multiple cities

      Once? Many months ago?

      That’s why I specifically talked about shutting things down.

      You’re basically demanding that we overthrow the government because we didn’t like the election results

      No, I’m demanding that you prove that democracy matters to you by shutting things down until you get your democracy back.

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        There were hundreds of protests this year and just year, it wasn’t once. If you’re just going to lie about reality then I’m not going to engage with you, because I guarantee you wouldn’t apply this same ridiculous standard to your own country. Especially considering Canada was ready to elect their own racist fascists until Trump ran his mouth.

        Get our democracy back? My state just had an election and we have full Dem control of our government. States run our elections, not Trump. But you’re telling me it’s gone? The doomer shit is just delusional.

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          There were hundreds of protests this year

          Yes, the US is a big, spread-out country.

          How many protests were there in DC? Did any of them succeed in shutting the city down – you know, the way that other protests in other capital cities were shut down when their democracy was threatened?

          Canada was ready to elect their own racist fascists

          Explain to me how Pierre Poilievre is, in any way, comparable to Trump.

          My state just had an election and we have full Dem control of our government

          Great, and I assume the federal government has no impact on your day-to-day life?

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            I’d wager that most folks in the US can’t afford the plane ticket or multiple day trip it’d take to go to DC for a protest.

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            How many protests were there in DC? Did any of them succeed in shutting the city down

            Oh, the capital already shut down by occupying federal troops for a year? …Yeah they did (and are) protesting and resisting

            Explain to me how Pierre Poilievre is, in any way, comparable to Trump.

            Ah so now “not Trump” is an acceptable standard, thus the Overton window shifts

            Great, and I assume the federal government has no impact on your day-to-day life?

            Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. Yes, obviously funding and aid cuts hurt everyone. Yes core federal institutions are being dismantled and looted. But despite what you might think, most Americans have very little tangible interaction with federal resources. Say your social security check stops coming in the mail or your Medicare coverage is cut. Who can you go to protest?

            Beyond Washington D.C. + military bases + hubs in major cities, offices and personnel are sparse and scattered. For my (relatively populated) area, the nearest federal government property is either a local post office or 1+ hour drive to some small field offices in the city. For me to get anywhere near any prominent elected federal official or department head would be missing multiple days of work and hundreds of dollars in transportation. It turns out it’s hard to organize sustained protests in those conditions when over 50% of the population lives paycheck to paycheck.

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              Oh, the capital already shut down by occupying federal troops for a year? …Yeah they did (and are) protesting and resisting

              Did you miss the question “How many?” I’m not saying there have never been any protests. I’m saying that compared to countries that Canadians respect, the number of protests in the US shows that Trump’s destruction of democracy isn’t a big deal to Americans.

              Ah so now “not Trump” is an acceptable standard, thus the Overton window shifts

              Did you realize you’re replying to a post called “The verdict is in: Canadians hate America thanks to Trump”?

              Not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

              Lies.

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              Oh, the capital already shut down by occupying federal troops for a year? …Yeah they did (and are) protesting and resisting

              Did you miss the question “How many?” I’m not saying there have never been any protests. I’m saying that compared to countries that Canadians respect, the number of protests in the US shows that Trump’s destruction of democracy isn’t a big deal to Americans.

              Ah so now “not Trump” is an acceptable standard, thus the Overton window shifts

              Did you realize you’re replying to a post called “The verdict is in: Canadians hate America thanks to Trump”?

              Not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

              Lies.