Russia’s biggest online shopping platform, Wildberries, has been hit hard by Ukrainian drone attacks on its massive warehouses. One big strike torched a huge logistics hub in Elektrostal, just outside Moscow, with more attacks following on sites in southern Russia. Fires raged, there were casualties, and a ton of goods went up in smoke.
For millions of Russians — especially in places far from regular shops — Wildberries (and its rival Ozon) is basically their go-to for everything from clothes to appliances. These platforms work like giant marketplaces where thousands of small independent sellers store and sell their stuff. Now a bunch of those sellers have lost serious money overnight: one woman selling school supplies saw her whole fresh delivery burn right before the busy back-to-school season, and another lost the equivalent of over £13,000 in teen clothing stock. Many are pausing new shipments because they’re worried about more attacks.
Wildberries’ owner has tried to soften the blow with some discounts and fee waivers, but sellers aren’t expecting full compensation — the company quietly added drone attacks to its “force majeure” list just days before the strikes.
Zelensky openly said Ukraine is bringing the war back to Russia in response to all the Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities and warehouses. Meanwhile, these hits are piling onto other problems Russian small businesses are already facing: higher taxes, fuel shortages from earlier strikes on refineries, internet disruptions, and a tough economic climate with inflation and falling oil revenues. It’s another blow to businesses that Putin has called vital for keeping the country going during the war.
In short, the attacks are showing how Ukraine’s long-range drones are starting to bite into everyday Russian life and commerce, not just military targets.
So. not going to be critical of Russia witch is targeting housing, hospitals, schools, and parks?
Strawman argument. The debate is about the latest development in the Ukrainian military.
You don’t even know what a straw man argument is, do you? Not this. This is a ‘Whataboutism’. In this case, I believe it’s an appropriate whataboutism.
You’re saying that the Ukrainians shouldn’t be attacking civilian warehouses when the russians are intentionally bombing homes, hospitals schools and parks.
You’re clearly okay with Russian forces bombing fucking kids, but not okay with Ukranian forces bombing civilian warehouses that may or may not also be part of the military supply chain. Frankly, given how much lying Russia has done in this war (as well as how awful their logistics have been), I’m inclined to not believe them.
So. Ya gonna criticize Russia for bombing kids, or… not?
You are indeed right, it’s a whataboutism not a strawman.
Which also applies to the rest of your comment. In no shape or form does my initial comment reference or let alone excuse Russias actions.
If you were sincerly interested in my thoughts on the matter you would search my comment history with the keyword Ukraine instead of accusing me of things I never said or did.
I’m accusing you of not saying.
Ukraine is saying that they’re legitimate military targets as they’re being used in military logistics, specifically in supplying parts for drones.
the drones that are bombing children in hospitals and schools.
I’m not inclined to believe the party that has been lying about everything this entire time. Are you?
Yeah, I didn’t say it. So what? Neither did I condemn the genocide in Pallestine or the US attacks on Iran. That was never part of the debate until you people started accusing me via dishonest discussion tricks and II simply refuse to play along.
Punching people is bad but if someone is punching you you have to fight back, right? This is what that is. It’s not a war crime, it’s a perfectly legal in war military logistical target.
No, I don’t necessarily have to. I can try to calm them down or I can try to wrestle them to the ground. There are different options available before resorting to punching. Just because I could doesn’t automatically mean I should.
Russia is much bigger than Ukraine. You might succeed in wrestling someone to the ground in a one on one fight, much less likely (to say the least) if you’re up against two or three people. Ukraine is far from a position where they can pick and choose the nicer methods to win the war.
Where is @[email protected] saying that they are not critical of Russia’s actions? If Russia is targeting children does that mean Ukraine is now free to do so as well?
how many children died in the widlberry warehouse attacks? how many were intentional?
Ukraine is saying that the warehouses are legitimate targets, being part of the russian military’s logistical supply chain. In what world would you accept a school as a legitimate target? Or a hospital?
maybe Ukraine is lying. I personally er on the side of the victims in this war, not on the side of the aggressors. The war can end whenever russia chooses to go home. Ukraine is fighting for survival.
To continue on your train of thought, how many Ukrainian children should die to save the life of a Russian child?
Russian parents can decide to end the war today. Ukrainian parents cannot.
How is a parent in bumfuck nowhere, Russia, supposed to do that, exactly?
I am as pro-Russian-exit as probably most here, but that is a delusional proposition. That’s like saying you were an office clerk in Wyoming, and could end the Iran attacks anytime. You and the Russian rando have pretty much the same leverage in my books.
This is completely false though.
Out of the three of us, the Russian rando is the only one that can realistically influence the Russian state unless you and I are willing to put our boots on and plan an invasion. He is part of the Russian polity.
Now Putin may rule through fear, but he still only rules with the consent of the average Russian rando. If enough of them decide that they’re no longer “non-political”, Putin will no longer rule and the war can end. Frankly, that’s the only way this war is going to end. So this is entirely their responsibility.
With that in mind, the question I raised above still stands, how many Ukrainians need to die to avoid hurting or inconveniencing the average Russian rando? Can you answer that?
That’s a simplistic view. Putin has created a climate of fear throughout his reign, and consent plays no part in his power whatsoever.
I’d argue that your view is the simplistic one.
Nobody is responsible except Putin. He’s like Santa Claus, delivering every bullet on the frontline himself in a single night.