• KuroiKaze@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    It’s just lots of small things. I still like it and have been to more cities than 99% of Chinese people themselves but permanent residence? Hell no. Gimme my freedom of movement, speech, and press. No Omni surveillance, gimme walkable city areas, no endless honking, orderly lines, patience, respect for servers, etc. You should definitely visit and enjoy the culture, food, language, and people but moving here is not something that is going to suit many that weren’t born into it. Everything requires an app and with no Play store rules everything relentlessly abuses you and spies on you. Facial recognition to pay for Walmart even, Christ. Plus if you’re any kind of beef eater this is a really bad place to be lol. Steak is cheap but it’s vastly inferior.

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      4 months ago

      Have you been to shenzhen? I’m planning a trip there and want to know what it’s like. Endless honking will be a problem for me, darn. Also disappointed to hear the cities aren’t walkable

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          4 months ago

          The app nonsense is China exclusive and puts them behind every country in the world nearly.

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          4 months ago

          Everyone takes didi nobody takes public transit unless the line is close or they real poor. Still many gray taxis. Traffic and parking garages erryday. Sometimes you can’t get a car at all.

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              4 months ago

              Pretty much the opposite. I’m a freewheeling extrovert that makes friend easily and am very well traveled globally. Anyway, it’s a logical fallacy to try and attack me personally when you don’t agree with what I’ve seen. China and the US have a lot of similarities and car culture is definitely one of them. The bus system is fairly unpleasant so unless you fortunately live where the metro is conveniently walkable you’re likely driving either a car or scooter pretty regularly. I will say the upside of the omni surveillance is that China’s roadways have civilized rapidly and now created a much larger gap between them and India due to auto ticketing. I was pretty surprised at how fast that happened. Taiwan is probably where I’d recommend if you want China without most of its downsides.

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        4 months ago

        Yeah a couple times, more international than other places but hot and humid as a fat guys armpits.