Russia invaded. Russia is welcome to fuck off whenever they’re tired of throwing soldiers into the meat grinder. I have all the sympathy for the people in Ukraine who are fighting off Putin’s war of aggression.
You’re an idiot. This is a US proxy war started by Washington and targeting Russia. Ukraine is just a vassal of empire and their fate is decided by their imperial backers.
That might be facts, but that’s not the whole story. History did not begin with the invasion. That narrative is not dissimilar to trying to pinpoint the Palestinian genocide to the singular event of Oct 7. There‘s precursors and reasons for what happened and ignoring them does in fact distort the picture heavily.
You’re thinking through an Us vs Them mentality, a bogeyman, and by that start to dismiss any narrative that contradicts ours.
Of course, you can ignore them, or discredit anyone that works to take this conflict seriously. Or, careful, you yourself start taking „the other side“, „the enemy“ seriously, for example that Russia as sovereign regional power might be having legitimate interests and red lines, but also take seriously what the other involved parties say and do. For example, on our side: censorship, repression, fueling the war, prolonging the war, avoiding diplomacy, weaken asylum for Ukrainians, that fled the war, so they can be directly deported back into the meat grinder.
On our side opposing narratives are systemically oppressed, for example by sanctioning journalists into absolute inability to live, like Hüseyin Doğru (who got sanctioned for his Palestine coverage with counterfactual reasoning in regards to Russia) or Jacques Baud. A recent court ruling now also actively criminalizes the reproduction/sharing of sanctioned content (like from RT, even if factual), so it‘s not enough to censor the media of the enemy in order to force you to only feed on one side. No, now individuals that share information from the other side’s perspective, can be jailed for up to five years. Opposing narratives in regards to the barbarian Israeli state is oppresed in Germany and the UK, already.
But ignoring the roles of NATO in the making and maintenance of this war, ignoring the US‘ involvement in the coup, ignoring the fascist currents in the Ukrainian military and government, ignoring the forced subscription of their own citizens … ah whatever … you‘ve got to realize that this is not a game, right?
Also, how does it compute for you, that our side is complicit in the Palestinian genocide and fascist Israel‘s Lebensraum expansion and Apartheid regime, but on the Ukrainian issue suddenly we‘re the good guys or have no involvement or interests? That‘s straight up dumb.
That narrative is not dissimilar to trying to pinpoint the Palestinian genocide to the singular event of Oct 7.
Ohh do you want to include the event where it all started with when the Arab nation trying to chase the jews out and prevent them to set up Israel, which lead to a war that the Arab nation regreted to this day and also the annexation of Palestine to this day? Because no i don’t want to do that. I look at the current event as see who’re the bastard that did the annexation as of now, to look far back mean to muddy the opinion, because history is complicated, and people who play that card is meant to complicate thing and soften the opinion against them. If NATO is the one causing this war, why did Russia not giving back Crimea after the conflict calm down? Why did they continue to invade and takeover someone else land when Ukraine haven’t even yet enter the alliance? Or do you believe Russia is still the rightful owner of Ukraine due to the Soviet Onion and they’re merely taking back?
ignoring the fascist currents in the Ukrainian military and government
What does that have to do with the invasion? Are you really believe this is a “military operation” to get rid of Nazi? This is like saying Iraq deserved to be invade because of terrorist.
ignoring the forced subscription of their own citizens
And what caused this? What do you have to say about Putin’s conscription of his own citizen?
Also, “our side”? That is your side, not “our side” because i don’t stand with whatever government you have if you think “our side” are pro-israel. I’m not playing a game, i’m stating an opinion on who’s wrong.
You’re the one who brought up gaza.
Russia invaded. Russia is welcome to fuck off whenever they’re tired of throwing soldiers into the meat grinder. I have all the sympathy for the people in Ukraine who are fighting off Putin’s war of aggression.
Lastly, eat shit.
“Putin’s war.”
You’re an idiot. This is a US proxy war started by Washington and targeting Russia. Ukraine is just a vassal of empire and their fate is decided by their imperial backers.
The fact remained that Russia invaded and annexed Crimea, and now invaded east Ukraine. No matter what you believe in, the fact never change.
That might be facts, but that’s not the whole story. History did not begin with the invasion. That narrative is not dissimilar to trying to pinpoint the Palestinian genocide to the singular event of Oct 7. There‘s precursors and reasons for what happened and ignoring them does in fact distort the picture heavily.
You’re thinking through an Us vs Them mentality, a bogeyman, and by that start to dismiss any narrative that contradicts ours. Of course, you can ignore them, or discredit anyone that works to take this conflict seriously. Or, careful, you yourself start taking „the other side“, „the enemy“ seriously, for example that Russia as sovereign regional power might be having legitimate interests and red lines, but also take seriously what the other involved parties say and do. For example, on our side: censorship, repression, fueling the war, prolonging the war, avoiding diplomacy, weaken asylum for Ukrainians, that fled the war, so they can be directly deported back into the meat grinder. On our side opposing narratives are systemically oppressed, for example by sanctioning journalists into absolute inability to live, like Hüseyin Doğru (who got sanctioned for his Palestine coverage with counterfactual reasoning in regards to Russia) or Jacques Baud. A recent court ruling now also actively criminalizes the reproduction/sharing of sanctioned content (like from RT, even if factual), so it‘s not enough to censor the media of the enemy in order to force you to only feed on one side. No, now individuals that share information from the other side’s perspective, can be jailed for up to five years. Opposing narratives in regards to the barbarian Israeli state is oppresed in Germany and the UK, already. But ignoring the roles of NATO in the making and maintenance of this war, ignoring the US‘ involvement in the coup, ignoring the fascist currents in the Ukrainian military and government, ignoring the forced subscription of their own citizens … ah whatever … you‘ve got to realize that this is not a game, right?
Also, how does it compute for you, that our side is complicit in the Palestinian genocide and fascist Israel‘s Lebensraum expansion and Apartheid regime, but on the Ukrainian issue suddenly we‘re the good guys or have no involvement or interests? That‘s straight up dumb.
Ohh do you want to include the event where it all started with when the Arab nation trying to chase the jews out and prevent them to set up Israel, which lead to a war that the Arab nation regreted to this day and also the annexation of Palestine to this day? Because no i don’t want to do that. I look at the current event as see who’re the bastard that did the annexation as of now, to look far back mean to muddy the opinion, because history is complicated, and people who play that card is meant to complicate thing and soften the opinion against them. If NATO is the one causing this war, why did Russia not giving back Crimea after the conflict calm down? Why did they continue to invade and takeover someone else land when Ukraine haven’t even yet enter the alliance? Or do you believe Russia is still the rightful owner of Ukraine due to the Soviet Onion and they’re merely taking back?
What does that have to do with the invasion? Are you really believe this is a “military operation” to get rid of Nazi? This is like saying Iraq deserved to be invade because of terrorist.
And what caused this? What do you have to say about Putin’s conscription of his own citizen?
Also, “our side”? That is your side, not “our side” because i don’t stand with whatever government you have if you think “our side” are pro-israel. I’m not playing a game, i’m stating an opinion on who’s wrong.
Lol. Lmao even.
Hope the troll farms pay well.
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