The people coming here slandering as “Iran apologists” those who would rather that the nation which is both the least evil and the victim of this war won rather than the vastly most evil aggressor nations, and do so even using the very typical Manufacturing Consent technique of calling the Iranian Government a “Regime” whilst not doing the same for the governments of the more aggressor nations, are the ones doing all the “brutality reducing” - they’re literally misrepresenting a position which is against the by far most murderous of sides in this war as being instead a position of support for the government structure of the other side.
Doing so in the context of the news of a court decision in Iran which, whilst ridiculous, will not result in anybody getting killed, is just taking the piss, especially if you compare it with the workings of the judicial system in one of the opposing countries in this war, the US, were every day the police just in average kills 3 - 4 people.
That post stinks of Hasbara propaganda. It stinks of the kind of specious “argument” that warmongering Nationalists make against those who do not support the actions of their nation. (Curiously, if you look at the evolution of up-votes and down-votes to it, it “curiously” got a lot of upvotes upfront right around daytime in Tel-Aviv and is getting more downvotes since)
I replied to that and then you came and took umbrage at me pointing out how from all sides of that war, the most outrageously murderous is the one of the American and Israeli Regimes (which explains why people side with Iran in this War)
took umbrage at me pointing out how from all sides of that war, the most outrageously murderous is the one of the American and Israeli Regimes
As I tried to explain, I didn’t take umbrage at that. Again I am not disputing Israel’s or America’s brutality whatsoever. Nowhere am I saying I want America and Israel to win. In fact, I don’t. Fuck them. I want the Iranians to come out on top. I agree that they’re the lesser evil.
What I took issue with is your false equivalence of comparing decades worth of brutality of the American and Israeli regimes with 1 specific Iranian incident. You don’t need that kind of dishonesty to say that Americans and Israelis are worse.
Well, it would probably have been fairer to point out the peak of the brutality of the Iranian Government which seems to have been their recent violent suppression of demonstrations, but it’s unclear how many people actually got killed in it because the information we have about it here in the West is certainly tainted with propaganda (mainly American) so any number I quoted would almost certainly be wrong and an exageration and I didn’t really want to respond to what looked like a Hasbara post by quoting American or Israeli propaganda figures about Iran.
That said, even the largest number I saw of persons killed by the Iranian Authorities in their recent violent crackdown - 35,000 - is less than the number of people officially confirmed by Palestinian Authorities of those killed by Israel alone, in Gaza alone in just the first 3 months of their latest Genocide: even what is almost certainly the wildest exaggeration from their enemies about the how murderous the Iranian Government is pale in comparison with how murderous the US and Israel are.
The people coming here slandering as “Iran apologists” those who would rather that the nation which is both the least evil and the victim of this war won rather than the vastly most evil aggressor nations, and do so even using the very typical Manufacturing Consent technique of calling the Iranian Government a “Regime” whilst not doing the same for the governments of the more aggressor nations, are the ones doing all the “brutality reducing” - they’re literally misrepresenting a position which is against the by far most murderous of sides in this war as being instead a position of support for the government structure of the other side.
Doing so in the context of the news of a court decision in Iran which, whilst ridiculous, will not result in anybody getting killed, is just taking the piss, especially if you compare it with the workings of the judicial system in one of the opposing countries in this war, the US, were every day the police just in average kills 3 - 4 people.
That post stinks of Hasbara propaganda. It stinks of the kind of specious “argument” that warmongering Nationalists make against those who do not support the actions of their nation. (Curiously, if you look at the evolution of up-votes and down-votes to it, it “curiously” got a lot of upvotes upfront right around daytime in Tel-Aviv and is getting more downvotes since)
I replied to that and then you came and took umbrage at me pointing out how from all sides of that war, the most outrageously murderous is the one of the American and Israeli Regimes (which explains why people side with Iran in this War)
As I tried to explain, I didn’t take umbrage at that. Again I am not disputing Israel’s or America’s brutality whatsoever. Nowhere am I saying I want America and Israel to win. In fact, I don’t. Fuck them. I want the Iranians to come out on top. I agree that they’re the lesser evil.
What I took issue with is your false equivalence of comparing decades worth of brutality of the American and Israeli regimes with 1 specific Iranian incident. You don’t need that kind of dishonesty to say that Americans and Israelis are worse.
Well, it would probably have been fairer to point out the peak of the brutality of the Iranian Government which seems to have been their recent violent suppression of demonstrations, but it’s unclear how many people actually got killed in it because the information we have about it here in the West is certainly tainted with propaganda (mainly American) so any number I quoted would almost certainly be wrong and an exageration and I didn’t really want to respond to what looked like a Hasbara post by quoting American or Israeli propaganda figures about Iran.
That said, even the largest number I saw of persons killed by the Iranian Authorities in their recent violent crackdown - 35,000 - is less than the number of people officially confirmed by Palestinian Authorities of those killed by Israel alone, in Gaza alone in just the first 3 months of their latest Genocide: even what is almost certainly the wildest exaggeration from their enemies about the how murderous the Iranian Government is pale in comparison with how murderous the US and Israel are.