• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    7 hours ago

    It’s not about how many things people bitch about. It’s about the pushback any environmental policy is facing from people. If people bitch for years and years about straws imagine how will they react to something significant like limiting beef. Those grievances are what populists use to gain power. If you push too hard people will vote you out and revert all progress (like Trump). So we’re stuck because no one is willing to sacrifice anything and you can’t really force anyone.

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      7 hours ago

      In my opinion that’s a band aid that has to come off.

      We shouldn’t take the high road to avoid backlash. The populists are going to go lower regardless of where we set the bar. This is how it has already gotten so low that we’re even debating straws.

      We should set the bar much much higher, so they can bitch and moan about hundreds of issues instead of finding unity in single issues like straws.

      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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        7 hours ago

        I’m all for it but unfortunately majority of people would vote out any politician that proposes something like that. And politicians know it.