• Dasus@lemmy.world
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          Fellas, is stabbing someone five times to kill them after they filmed you and you didn’t like what they were saying, “self-defense”?

          On the evening of 3 December 2025, some time before 11:30 pm, Nowak (victim) was walking in the area of Belmont Road in the Portswood suburb of Southampton.He had been drinking at the Hobbit Pub but he was under the drink-drive limit.

          Nowak then began filming Vickrum Digwa. Video recovered from Nowak’s phone captured him saying “Hello car” and singing to himself before yawning, while Digwa walked away from him. Nowak continued: “Innit bad man, what bad man. You’re a bad man, say you’re a bad man, go on.” Digwa, still walking away in the Snapchat video, replied: “I am a bad man” Digwa inflicted five “stab wounds or cuts” on Nowak, with the 21-centimetre (8.3 in) Kirpan, a Sikh ceremonial knife he was carrying, including a fatal wound to the chest and additional wounds to his legs.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Henry_Nowak#Murder

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            Yes that is indeed self-defense and will be found as such in any country that isn’t the UK. Even the US isn’t this stupid, and that’s saying something.

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              Lol, that doesn’t even apply in the US. You’re always going on about this thing called “freedom of speech”.

              Perhaps try educating yourself on what that means?

              Please describe in the detail which one of the victims actions necessitated him being stabbed five times various locations?

              The guy didn’t even use expressions that could be construed as “fighting words” and even if he did, that wouldn’t necessitate being stabbed over it. Wouldn’t hold up even in US court.

              In the U.S., the general rule is that “[a] person is privileged to use such force as reasonably appears necessary to defend him or herself against an apparent threat of unlawful and immediate violence from another.”[1] In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm.[2] When the use of deadly force is involved in a self-defense claim, the person must also reasonably believe that their use of deadly force is immediately necessary to prevent the other’s infliction of great bodily harm or death.[3] Most states no longer require a person to retreat before using deadly force. In the minority of jurisdictions which do require retreat, there is no obligation to retreat when it is unsafe to do so or when one is inside one’s own home.[4]

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(United_States)#General_rule

              So what was it, specifically?

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      Theres that r-word again everyone is so afraid of that may have led to this kid’s death or at least led to him being handcuffed and his injuries ignored. How is anyone of any creed or color who pulls this kind of shit not worthless filth?

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        You English cunts have wild ideas about self-defense. No wonder you’ve lost every war you’ve fought in since the 1700s.

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            Your list of ‘victories’ seem to all be against people at least ten centuries behind your current technology. That’s not a war. That’s just genocide. And no, the UK did not win WWII. They were busy hiding in their bunkers while real countries actually fought and died.

            (also “found him annoying” is a weird euphemism for “stalking while committing multiple hate crimes and threatening” but that’s why Labor is looking more and more like UKIP these days, brown men can’t defend themselves against “True Englishman” aggression.)

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              I’m not British. :)

              They were busy hiding in their bunkers while real countries actually fought and died.

              The US refused to enter the war for years because it was afraid.

              You can’t help but project, can you?

              Also, didn’t you guys lose to a bunch of ricefarmers with sticks and muskets?

              also “found him annoying” is a weird euphemism for “stalking while committing multiple hate crimes and threatening” but that’s why L

              No, it isn’t. Even if the guy was being a racist asshole, of which there’s no evidence, despite him having filmed the interaction, that doesn’t justify murder. Jesus, this is like talking to a toddler. No, you can’t stab a person to death because you didn’t like him when he was walking home from a bar.

              What fkin stalking? Why are you making up shit?

              And even if he did, that’s still not an immediate threat to his life that wouldn’t even non-lethal force, let alone lethal force, let alone stabbing him all over five fucking times.

              You’re just a shitstirrer though. I don’t believe you’re actually that illiterate. Or American, tbh. No wörries, I like writing. Keep stirring.