• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    1 hour ago

    Whatever, I don’t even care anymore. You’re just going to completely ignore subtext and connotation while playing semantic games about what is or isn’t verbatim or what modifiers have or haven’t been added for clarity. I’m done wandering in this labyrinth with you.

    The next time a trans man dies of ovarian cancer because his doctor was too afraid to have him screened for it (or worse: didn’t even know he has ovaries in the first place!), then at least I know it won’t be my fault. I’ve done my part. I’ve contributed my bit to the discussion, and if you want to categorically reject it because it would require you to assimilate an uncomfortable truth into your worldview, then fine. What’s it to me?

    You make it really hard to care about anyone’s feelings if I have to walk on eggshells to avoid being taken out of context, mischaracterized, labeled a bigot, and banned from a whole list of unrelated communities. Keep scratching your head as to why journalists rarely touch on the topic anymore, too.

    Wow. I want you to think of a phrase about a minority group that you personally acknowledge is offensive.

    If someone tries to say that the word “ethnicity” is insensitive to racial minorities and has no use other than as a dogwhistle, then I wouldn’t be in the wrong for pointing out how it’s a necessary concept in anthropology.

    Just because people want to manufacture outrage about benign concepts doesn’t make me responsible for their feelings.

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      40 minutes ago

      I want you to think of a phrase about a minority group that you personally acknowledge is offensive.

      If someone tries to say that the word “ethnicity”

      I think if you break character and you’re really honest with yourself and me, you may be able to come to terms with the possibility that maybe, just maybe, you don’t sincerely believe that ‘ethnicity’ is a word that you, personally acknowledge is offensive.

      It was a breathtakingly futile attempt to help you for once look at something from someone else’s perspective. I don’t know why I tried given how insulated from empathy for anyone else’s feelings or perspective you have demonstrated you are over the last hours.

      You make it really hard to care about anyone’s feelings if I have to walk on eggshells

      Lol. You really think that the victims of transphobic talk are to blame.

      The next time a trans man dies of ovarian cancer because his doctor was too afraid to have him screened for it (or worse: didn’t even know he has ovaries in the first place!), then at least I know it won’t be my fault.

      Lol lol lol. You are parodying yourself now! You invented this timeline, this complete fiction, this flight of fancy in which someone was insisting that it’s transphobic for a doctor to ask people about their medical history, (a context and an assertion that you, and only you invented) and then you blamed someone merely telling you that you were being impolite for the DEATH of your fictional character when they followed the imagined straw man advice that literally no one gave except you. And then you congratulated yourself that you had done your best to prevent the fictional death resulting from the implausible consequence of following advice that you yourself invented!

      You have to give in and admit that the sheer audacity and absurdity of this far fetched straw man is actually funny!

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        17 minutes ago

        Ethnicity is to race what sex is to gender. Race and gender are social constructs, while ethnicity and sex are biological categories that are often conflated with their sociological counterparts.

        You wanted me to come up with a slur and then try to argue that it’s perfectly fine to say? I’m not going to do that, because I’m not a bigot. Just because you’re trying to mischaracterize me as one doesn’t mean you can bait me into talking like one.

        And then you act offended that I didn’t blindly stumble into your transparent attempt at entrapment? You’re not worth arguing with.

        You really think that the victims of transphobic talk are to blame.

        Nothing I’ve said has been transphobic, you’re just using “victim blaming” as a shield to hide from information or ideas that conflict with your own.

        As for the rest of your drivel, get over yourself. Trans men aren’t a fiction, and many of them do have ovaries. The fact that you’re manufacturing so much outrage over using sex as opposed to gender as a useful concept in medical contexts has the direct implication that doctors would be hindered from screening trans men for ovarian cancer. And if you can’t see that direct connection, then I can’t help you.

        Feel free to blindly stumble into problems that no one could have foreseen because you’re so averse to anyone pointing out where some notions might lead.

        I’m done arguing with you.