I’ve yet to have any single interaction with a doctor where knowing I was born with a penis has been helpful beyond not having to ask questions like “might you be pregnant?”, but so many flags in medical paperwork that just result from them mislabeling me as a male.
Okay, so are you just going to ignore the inverse situation where a trans man goes to the doctor and the doctor does have to ask if he might be pregnant?
Okay, then it makes sense to have a spot on the intake forms to denote biological sex, or assigned sex at birth, or whatever term you want to use for it.
Otherwise a doctor seeing a new patient won’t know the appropriate questions to ask.
There should also be sections to mark any medications one is on, including hormone therapy, and any prior surgeries, including organ removal.
So instead of saying biological sex is a useless concept that only transphobes use, why not mention what your preferred terminology is so that people who actually care about being affirming can use the correct term?
why not mention what your preferred terminology is so that people who actually care about being affirming can use the correct term?
Oh, if you actually care about being affirming, the correct term is gender. What you say to your doctor is private. Gender is the public facing bit. It’s the relevant bit for which toilets you or I go in, which is what we’re discussing.
The correct term is not gender, because gender is different from sex. If you go to the doctor and all they ask is your gender, they’re missing critical information.
I never said what people tell their doctors belongs anywhere other than their confidential medical record.
I wasn’t speaking in reference to bathrooms. A commenter said “biological sex is a transphobic dogwhistle” and I pointed out that that’s not always the case.
And really? Someone called this “transphobic apologia” and permabanned me from several communities that I’ve never participated in anyway? I pretty clearly distinguished that what I’m saying is not transphobia, but I suppose if you lack any nuance then it could be hard to tell the difference.
If I didn’t value trans lives then why would I give a shit if your doctor fails to screen for the correct types of cancer because they don’t know your biological sex? If I was transphobic, that wouldn’t matter to me at all.
I get it, there’s a lot of transphobia in the world and that probably makes you see it where there is none, but golly, permabanning from several unrelated communities is petty as hell.
Oh, if you actually care about being affirming, the correct term is gender.
The correct term is not gender, because gender is different from sex.
This post is about public gendered spaces. A toilet doesn’t have gonads. Your derailment into medical treatment is not helpful and the opposite of affirming. If your trans friend, should you be capable of retaining one, complains about access to toilets following this development, interrupting them to tell them that they’re always going to have to mention their sex assigned at birth to the doctor is deeply unsympathetic at the very least.
I wasn’t speaking in reference to bathrooms. A commenter said “biological sex is a transphobic dogwhistle” and I pointed out that that’s not always the case.
It’s a transphobic dog whistle in the context of this guidance.
Even if private conversions with your doctor and registration forms were relevant in a discussion about using a term like “biological sex” in guidance about gendered spaces, still in 2026, if your doctor’s registration has “Biologocal sex: M/F” and nothing else, your doctor is transphobic asshole who has decided to mistreat (in both senses) a persecuted minority.
And really? Someone called this “transphobic apologia” and permabanned me from several communities that I’ve never participated in anyway?
Really. If you can’t see how derailing the topic and pontificating about what your doctor needs to know in a discussion about who is allowed to use the toilets in peace, then you lack empathy.
I’m no mod. I don’t have the time or the inclination to clean up the worst shit on the site
I didn’t ban you, but I’d be shocked if a comm or instance designed as a safe space for trans people wanted you showing up there banging on about their birth sex. Prebanning you stops you from showing up there to sealion the same stuff they’re absolutely sick of hearing, because I promise you, you aren’t the first nor the first thousandth person to debate “biological sex” in the context of trans people’s rights.
I pretty clearly distinguished that what I’m saying is not transphobia,
Your assertion means so much less than your behaviour. All three racist things I ever heard were prefixed by “I’m not being racist, but” and the weirdest thing ever said to me by a retailer was was prefixed by “I’m not being funny, but”.
but I suppose if you lack any nuance then it could be hard to tell the difference.
It is genuinely very hard indeed to tell the difference between someone on the autistic spectrum turning up in a post about trans people and arguing something unhelpful, unsupportive and upsetting to trans people at length out of pedantry without realising that they’re derailing the conversion and upsetting trans people, and a sealioning transphobe.
If you aren’t transphobic and you aren’t autistic, I would expect you to adjust how you speak in this kind of context.
I get it, there’s a lot of transphobia in the world and that probably makes you see it where there is none, but golly, permabanning from several unrelated communities is petty as hell.
Didn’t do it, but I understand it, and the fact that you can’t seem to understand why it happened is the same reason they wanted to do it.
I’ve yet to have any single interaction with a doctor where knowing I was born with a penis has been helpful beyond not having to ask questions like “might you be pregnant?”, but so many flags in medical paperwork that just result from them mislabeling me as a male.
Okay, so are you just going to ignore the inverse situation where a trans man goes to the doctor and the doctor does have to ask if he might be pregnant?
theyre not ignoring it?
No one has addressed the situation even though I’ve mentioned it twice in this thread now. That seems like ignoring it, no?
Is it transphobic for a doctor to ask a trans man if he might be pregnant, or no?
no
if they are, at the time, able to be pregnant, it makes sense
Okay, then it makes sense to have a spot on the intake forms to denote biological sex, or assigned sex at birth, or whatever term you want to use for it.
Otherwise a doctor seeing a new patient won’t know the appropriate questions to ask.
There should also be sections to mark any medications one is on, including hormone therapy, and any prior surgeries, including organ removal.
So instead of saying biological sex is a useless concept that only transphobes use, why not mention what your preferred terminology is so that people who actually care about being affirming can use the correct term?
Oh, if you actually care about being affirming, the correct term is gender. What you say to your doctor is private. Gender is the public facing bit. It’s the relevant bit for which toilets you or I go in, which is what we’re discussing.
The correct term is not gender, because gender is different from sex. If you go to the doctor and all they ask is your gender, they’re missing critical information.
I never said what people tell their doctors belongs anywhere other than their confidential medical record.
I wasn’t speaking in reference to bathrooms. A commenter said “biological sex is a transphobic dogwhistle” and I pointed out that that’s not always the case.
And really? Someone called this “transphobic apologia” and permabanned me from several communities that I’ve never participated in anyway? I pretty clearly distinguished that what I’m saying is not transphobia, but I suppose if you lack any nuance then it could be hard to tell the difference.
If I didn’t value trans lives then why would I give a shit if your doctor fails to screen for the correct types of cancer because they don’t know your biological sex? If I was transphobic, that wouldn’t matter to me at all.
I get it, there’s a lot of transphobia in the world and that probably makes you see it where there is none, but golly, permabanning from several unrelated communities is petty as hell.
This post is about public gendered spaces. A toilet doesn’t have gonads. Your derailment into medical treatment is not helpful and the opposite of affirming. If your trans friend, should you be capable of retaining one, complains about access to toilets following this development, interrupting them to tell them that they’re always going to have to mention their sex assigned at birth to the doctor is deeply unsympathetic at the very least.
It’s a transphobic dog whistle in the context of this guidance.
Even if private conversions with your doctor and registration forms were relevant in a discussion about using a term like “biological sex” in guidance about gendered spaces, still in 2026, if your doctor’s registration has “Biologocal sex: M/F” and nothing else, your doctor is transphobic asshole who has decided to mistreat (in both senses) a persecuted minority.
Really. If you can’t see how derailing the topic and pontificating about what your doctor needs to know in a discussion about who is allowed to use the toilets in peace, then you lack empathy.
I’m no mod. I don’t have the time or the inclination to clean up the worst shit on the site
I didn’t ban you, but I’d be shocked if a comm or instance designed as a safe space for trans people wanted you showing up there banging on about their birth sex. Prebanning you stops you from showing up there to sealion the same stuff they’re absolutely sick of hearing, because I promise you, you aren’t the first nor the first thousandth person to debate “biological sex” in the context of trans people’s rights.
Your assertion means so much less than your behaviour. All three racist things I ever heard were prefixed by “I’m not being racist, but” and the weirdest thing ever said to me by a retailer was was prefixed by “I’m not being funny, but”.
It is genuinely very hard indeed to tell the difference between someone on the autistic spectrum turning up in a post about trans people and arguing something unhelpful, unsupportive and upsetting to trans people at length out of pedantry without realising that they’re derailing the conversion and upsetting trans people, and a sealioning transphobe.
If you aren’t transphobic and you aren’t autistic, I would expect you to adjust how you speak in this kind of context.
Didn’t do it, but I understand it, and the fact that you can’t seem to understand why it happened is the same reason they wanted to do it.