Case in point. I never mentioned any of those groups, and I never discriminated trans people. I disagreed with this fucking idiot that’s the extent of it. Thanks for “Trump: Birthright citizenship is a disgrace” thanks for that you stupid fucking cunts this is your fault.
You directly replied to a post talking about biological essentialism and a misunderstanding of sex as a mechanism for discriminating against trans people, telling them “get a grip” and that caring about that scientific reality is “stupid fucking shit.”
Whether you believe it is or not, that is a form of discrimination, as it essentially posits that we should just ignore these facts to appease closed-minded individuals to “win” the culture war, even if that “win” comes at the expense of… being trans not being considered “real” or “biologically accurate” by those who entirely misunderstand what being trans is.
You need to realize that pushing scientific fact to the margins to appease other people fighting the ‘culture war’ does nothing but harm people so those other people can continue to live in ignorance.
Your mentality is the same as someone arguing that we shouldn’t have talked about there being no biological evidence for black people being dumber than white people because that would “lose us the culture war” against white slave owners that think they should get to own slaves because black people are dumber than them. Maybe you win their votes, but you’ve done nothing but enable the continuation of slavery by not confronting its widely believed yet incorrect ideological backing.
Not talking about things like intersex individuals and the unknowns about the links between sex and gender doesn’t win you anything in the long term if it comes at the cost of every single trans and intersex person’s (millions of people in just the USA, and that’s likely an undercount) rights by backsliding on public understanding of the subject.
Get a fucking grip on fucking reality you stupid fucking idiot. Stop inventing things in your head to disagree with you putrid rotting dog cunt.
I see you’re not exactly into constructive conversation. Maybe chill out instead of getting so angry at comments online that it sends you into a fit of swearing rage?
justify it
Sure. Any time, any day. I doubt you’ll even read past the first sentence given how irrationally angry you seem to be, but maybe you’ll prove me wrong.
The vast majority of people do not even know there are sexes that could be defined outside the binary of male and female. They don’t know that chromosome combinations outside XX and XY exist at all.
When people are told this, many of them refuse to accept it, and simply cast it as “outliers” that in the end, don’t change their belief that “there are only 2 sexes”, sometimes because their religion simply states there’s only 2 against all currently known evidence, or even if they are just more broadly liberal and would still say gender is separate from sex. It is an uncomfortable thing for some to come to terms with to understand that something so deeply ingrained into our culture is much more complicated than it seems at a glance.
This has been a known fact for centuries, and yet society broadly still assumes, by default, that it is “abnormal” and “undesirable”, so surgeries are often performed on intersex individuals as babies to “correct” their sex characteristics to match just the two binary options most people are familiar with, even if that individual later finds out and would otherwise have not wanted the surgery.
To this day, people like you are continuing to call people like me a “putrid rotting dog cunt” for explaining this well-researched, broadly demonstrated topic with widespread occurrences across the globe, when the more reasonable answer to being told such a fact would be to spend even a minute on any search engine to find out you’re going against the whole of medical consensus and seemingly getting incredibly incensed over the fact that nobody agrees with you.
Every part of their statement was either reaffirmed or backed up with additional supporting statements in what I wrote. Either you didn’t read what I typed, or you simply don’t have the greatest reading comprehension and can’t see how my statements back up what they originally posted.
you are just stating random facts I never disagreed with.
Those ‘random facts’ are directly reaffirming the other person’s statements, which you called “the stupidest fucking shit I have seen today.” Is it safe to say that you calling something stupid probably means you disagree with it?
You are disingenuous
Keep telling yourself that, I’m sure you gotta fuel that anger somehow. It’s not you who is wrong, it must be everyone else!
calling something stupid probably means you disagree with it?
Jesus fucking christ dude biological sex is everything you have describe what are you even disagreeing with because I am disagreeing with the sentiment of a fucking idiot I am not talking about gender.
biological sex is everything you have describe what are you even disagreeing with
Someone said, at least to summarize, that it’s stupid to think there’s only two sexes, and that people are intentionally ignorant of that fact.
You called that statement “stupid fucking shit”, then in another comment said “I disagreed with this fucking idiot that’s the extent of it.” as if that changed the fact that what you were disagreeing with was their statement.
Thus, the understanding is that you think those ideas are stupid, and thus incorrect.
Even now, you just said “I am not talking about gender.” Guess what? I’m not either. I’m talking about societal understanding of sex characteristics and how they get classified, just like the original comment you said was stupid was doing.
Of course I’m talking about biological sex, that’s the primary component of the thing you called stupid. What else am I supposed to be addressing here? You literally re-stated your point again, saying “This is the stupidest fucking shit I have seen today” while specifically quoting the part of the original comment addressing biological sex. Do you need a refresher on what you yourself quoted? Here it is:
In conclusion, “biological sex” is just another gross simplification created by people who’s minds are so pathetic they can’t comprehend reality and so choose to live by mantra founded in disproven pseudo-sciences, religion, and other excuses to avoid critical thinking, and then put themselves in positions of power.
Does that statement not literally begin by addressing biological sex?
Do you even know the topic of the argument you’re having right now? Are you just blindly disagreeing with people without reading the words you’re quoting? I’m not sure if you’re simply angry for the sake of it and ignorant of what you’re talking about, or if you’re just trolling on purpose, but regardless I’m done with this comment chain. You clearly aren’t acting in good faith, and you clearly don’t have a grasp on what it is you even started arguing about.
This just goes to show transphobes and bigots refuse to learn about the reality we live in and instead lash out because something doesn’t fit their worldview.
I only see you lashing out. Op is 100% correct and you are refusing to learn anything. Instead you call people a putrid rotting dog. Honestly I bet a putrid rotting dog smells better than you do.
Because science and peer reviewed data helped to inform me of reality. As well as living with non-binary and trans people, not to mention dating a trans man.
I am not being taught anything I don’t already know.
I think you need to take a logic class or read logic primer. Let’s remove the negatives, “I am being taught everything I already know” hmmm yeah that makes sense. You should try learning things you don’t already know. This is what I ment by refusing to learn. Not challenging your own beliefs doesn’t lead to growth, it leads to ignorance.
Case in point. I never mentioned any of those groups, and I never discriminated trans people. I disagreed with this fucking idiot that’s the extent of it. Thanks for “Trump: Birthright citizenship is a disgrace” thanks for that you stupid fucking cunts this is your fault.
You directly replied to a post talking about biological essentialism and a misunderstanding of sex as a mechanism for discriminating against trans people, telling them “get a grip” and that caring about that scientific reality is “stupid fucking shit.”
Whether you believe it is or not, that is a form of discrimination, as it essentially posits that we should just ignore these facts to appease closed-minded individuals to “win” the culture war, even if that “win” comes at the expense of… being trans not being considered “real” or “biologically accurate” by those who entirely misunderstand what being trans is.
You need to realize that pushing scientific fact to the margins to appease other people fighting the ‘culture war’ does nothing but harm people so those other people can continue to live in ignorance.
Your mentality is the same as someone arguing that we shouldn’t have talked about there being no biological evidence for black people being dumber than white people because that would “lose us the culture war” against white slave owners that think they should get to own slaves because black people are dumber than them. Maybe you win their votes, but you’ve done nothing but enable the continuation of slavery by not confronting its widely believed yet incorrect ideological backing.
Not talking about things like intersex individuals and the unknowns about the links between sex and gender doesn’t win you anything in the long term if it comes at the cost of every single trans and intersex person’s (millions of people in just the USA, and that’s likely an undercount) rights by backsliding on public understanding of the subject.
Intersex individuals demonstrate variation within the sex binary. They’re still male or female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorders_of_sex_development
Please stop pushing the idea that reality is “biological essentialism”.
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I see you’re not exactly into constructive conversation. Maybe chill out instead of getting so angry at comments online that it sends you into a fit of swearing rage?
Sure. Any time, any day. I doubt you’ll even read past the first sentence given how irrationally angry you seem to be, but maybe you’ll prove me wrong.
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Every part of their statement was either reaffirmed or backed up with additional supporting statements in what I wrote. Either you didn’t read what I typed, or you simply don’t have the greatest reading comprehension and can’t see how my statements back up what they originally posted.
Those ‘random facts’ are directly reaffirming the other person’s statements, which you called “the stupidest fucking shit I have seen today.” Is it safe to say that you calling something stupid probably means you disagree with it?
Keep telling yourself that, I’m sure you gotta fuel that anger somehow. It’s not you who is wrong, it must be everyone else!
Jesus fucking christ dude biological sex is everything you have describe what are you even disagreeing with because I am disagreeing with the sentiment of a fucking idiot I am not talking about gender.
Someone said, at least to summarize, that it’s stupid to think there’s only two sexes, and that people are intentionally ignorant of that fact.
You called that statement “stupid fucking shit”, then in another comment said “I disagreed with this fucking idiot that’s the extent of it.” as if that changed the fact that what you were disagreeing with was their statement.
Thus, the understanding is that you think those ideas are stupid, and thus incorrect.
Even now, you just said “I am not talking about gender.” Guess what? I’m not either. I’m talking about societal understanding of sex characteristics and how they get classified, just like the original comment you said was stupid was doing.
Of course I’m talking about biological sex, that’s the primary component of the thing you called stupid. What else am I supposed to be addressing here? You literally re-stated your point again, saying “This is the stupidest fucking shit I have seen today” while specifically quoting the part of the original comment addressing biological sex. Do you need a refresher on what you yourself quoted? Here it is:
Does that statement not literally begin by addressing biological sex?
Do you even know the topic of the argument you’re having right now? Are you just blindly disagreeing with people without reading the words you’re quoting? I’m not sure if you’re simply angry for the sake of it and ignorant of what you’re talking about, or if you’re just trolling on purpose, but regardless I’m done with this comment chain. You clearly aren’t acting in good faith, and you clearly don’t have a grasp on what it is you even started arguing about.
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This just goes to show transphobes and bigots refuse to learn about the reality we live in and instead lash out because something doesn’t fit their worldview.
That’s what OP is doing.
I only see you lashing out. Op is 100% correct and you are refusing to learn anything. Instead you call people a putrid rotting dog. Honestly I bet a putrid rotting dog smells better than you do.
Why? Because it fits your worldview?
I am not being taught anything I don’t already know.
Because science and peer reviewed data helped to inform me of reality. As well as living with non-binary and trans people, not to mention dating a trans man.
I think you need to take a logic class or read logic primer. Let’s remove the negatives, “I am being taught everything I already know” hmmm yeah that makes sense. You should try learning things you don’t already know. This is what I ment by refusing to learn. Not challenging your own beliefs doesn’t lead to growth, it leads to ignorance.
Uhm this is the new stupidest thing I have seen today.
The information provided to me in these posts is not new to me. I am aware of this information already.
You invented something to disagree with good job buddy you are so smart.