• Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca
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    14 hours ago

    58% to 64% of the Lebanese population opposing Hezbollah’s immediate disarmament

    Opposing Hezbollah’s immediate disarmament is not equivalent to consent to enter the war of Israel against Palestine.

    You don’t seem to understand the difference between colonialism and occupation either.

    Just rolling with how loosely you seemingly use the term. Israel may be colonialists in general, but in the specific context of Israel vs Hezbollah they are clearly not.

    I was talking during WW2 against the axis not after Germany surrendered.

    Yeah, conveniently leaving out one of the greatest examples of a resistance fighting force becoming the occupying colonialists?

    I love how you also ignore France and Britain

    What about France and Britain?

    France did not wait for Germany to start aggressing it to declare and attacking war on the Nazis

    The French government being the democratically elected government representing the French people and territory signed an alliance with the Polish government. As such Germany’s invasion of Poland was also an aggression against France, not the other way around. There is no such understanding between Palestine and Lebanon. Or Iran and Lebanon.

    And sure, you could argue that Hezbollah are allied with the IRGC and Hamas, but Hezbollah is dragging Lebanon into the fight without consent.

    • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      13 hours ago

      Opposing Hezbollah’s immediate disarmament is not equivalent to consent to enter the war of Israel against Palestine.

      Why would 58% of Lebanese would support Hezbollah maintaining it’s arm other than to be used against the Israeli threat?

      Just rolling with how loosely you seemingly use the term. Israel may be colonialists in general, but in the specific context of Israel vs Hezbollah they are clearly not.

      Israel want to create a greater Israel which include Lebanon. Hezbollah rocket was thrown on Shaba farms, Lebanese occupied land . It was not a mere support for Palestine. Not to mention Israel constantly breach the resolution 1701 yearly

      The French government being the democratically elected government representing the French people and territory signed an alliance with the Polish government.

      An alliance mean both side of the alliance has the obligation to protect the other when attacked but it doesn’t mean an aggression on Poland is an aggression on France. France attacked Nazi Germany before Nazi Germany attacked . France had a treaty of Poland exactly because the threat was real , they didn’t wait for the nazi to have one less resisting country because intervening. My last sentence was my main point because it is similar to Hezbollah not waiting for Palestine to be completely destroyed then wait for Israel to occupy and colonize Lebanon again.

      If you think Hezbollah is dragging Lebanon into the fight without consent, then France dragged themselves into the war by signing a mutual defense alliance with Poland

      • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca
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        12 hours ago

        Why would 58% of Lebanese would support Hezbollah maintaining it’s arm other than to be used against the Israeli threat?

        Oh fucking stop it. Threat against Lebanon specifically. A retaliation against Hamas, even if completely disproportionate and genocidal is not a threat against Lebanon.

        Israel want to create a greater Israel which include Lebanon.

        Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The complete Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon kinda works against that claim.

        Hezbollah rocket was thrown on Shaba farms, Lebanese occupied land

        Not according to the UN?

        Not to mention Israel constantly breach the resolution 1701 yearly

        Unlike Hezbollah?

        waiting for Palestine to be completely destroyed then wait for Israel to occupy and colonize Lebanon again.

        Extraordinary claims again

        If you think Hezbollah is dragging Lebanon into the fight without consent, then France dragged themselves into the war by signing a mutual defense alliance with Poland

        Unlike the French government, Hezbollah didn’t have the representative authority to do so. Doing it without such an authority is in itself a form if aggression (against the people of Lebanon, not against Israel)