Three parts of Iran’s 10-point ceasefire proposal have been violated, Ghalibaf said. The violations are Israel’s continued attacks on Lebanon, the entry of a drone into Iranian airspace, and the denial of the Islamic Republic’s right to enrich uranium, he said.
As far as I’m aware, the ceasefire was to negotiate the terms to end the war, which was what the 10-point plan was a part of - nobody has agreed to anything yet beyond a cessation of hostilities pending the reopening of the straight. This is difficult to follow, because Iran’s own reporting has been incredibly inconsistent about the contents of that plan and what they are saying the ceasefire actually entails, and to complicate it further the US/Israel have said barely anything about the negotiations or terms of the ceasefire (including as far as I am aware listing any terms beyond “reopening of the straight”.)
I can’t find any reports of the US or Israel attacking Iran directly during this ceasefire, though - the only mention in the article of a direct slight against Iran is that a drone may have violated Iranian airspace - so… there’s that? It sounds like the US still hasn’t started blowing Iran up again, which is… god…
IDK. To my armchair-geopoliticing-ass, this feels like Iran attempting to force the idea that the US/Israel agreed to their 10-point plan as terms of the ceasefire - something which seems extremely unlikely given that the terms (depending on the source) include “allowing Iranian nuclear enrichment” which seems like something that would be negotiated at a much later part of the process. Which is weird because they already have the whole “Israel still blowing up lebanon” thing to justify this.
I think it was Isreal stops attacking Lebanon
Yeah, sorry if that was unclear - I was just saying I don’t think they’ve attacked Iran directly during the ceasefire, Israel attacking lebanon is separate to that point.
edit: I have no idea why this is contentious?
Because it’s the same war. Iran officially recognizes Israel’s war of aggression across the region as the same that it is currently fighting, and part of the explicit ceasefire agreement (no one corrected you but the 10 points ceasefire WAS this one and why Iran agreed to the ceasefire they twice denied without these stipulations) was for Israel to stop invading and expanding their territory into Lebanon.
Israel violated this agreement, and as Israel and the US are essentially one entity from the view point of anyone not in Israel or the US, the US thus violated the ceasefire.
Iran was not begging for a ceasefire, Trump was. Iran has stated repeatedly it is ready to escalate or continue on as long as necessary until its demands are met. There is no non-nuclear action the US can take to end this war without meeting Iran’s demands; and pakistan has already issued threats of nuclear retaliation should nukes be used by Israel or the US, so that’s off the table.
I’m not sure why it wouldn’t be the same war - I was remarking that the US and Israel appear to have stopped directly striking Iran, nothing beyond that. In no way am I saying that attacking lebanon isn’t a part of the same war, or wasn’t a violation of the ceasefire.
Where are you seeing this? I have found nowhere besides some reports (like this one) purporting to quote Iranian state media that claims all sides agreed to those terms - but even trump’s announcement presented the ‘10-point plan’ as the basis for future negotiations, not the terms of the ceasefire, which agrees with this statement from Iran:
So I am very curious where you heard that this was the case.
Yeah, the reporting on all of this has been terrible. Iran released an inconsistent (different demands on the English terms) list of demands to end the war, but everyone is acting like the US accepted the list by agreeing to a temporary ceasefire.
I don’t think anybody is actually talking to anybody at this point. They’re playing telephone with the media.
Pretty much. It would be nice to know if negotiations had even begun before they fell apart, though I guess I don’t think it would particularly change anything.