Were those health studies?
You know the lung problem with asbestos is quite unique, and it may have been unknown back then. If buildings weren’t for people, asbestos is very safe regarding fires, and an excellent material in many ways. But it was already in the 60’s that we began to ban and remove that shit, exactly because it is harmful to your lungs.
The bases in vaping have been used for instance for asthma inhalers for many many decades and is STILL used for that, and the pharmaceutical industry is pretty heavily regulated. It is also used as stage fog, in fog machines that spew enormous amounts into rooms full of people, with AFAIK no research showing any health problems, for the operators or the musicians or actors that are exposed to it every day.
But for some reason, when it’s an e-cig some people suddenly have a knee jerk reaction, and think whatever is inhaled in any way is unhealthy.
Your argument is basically whataboutism, and in that line you could ask yourself, what about the smell of making tea, surely that must be harmful too by your logic. All that tea vapor in the air that you inhale in closed rooms.
Actually it has been shown that people that vape to quit smoking, recover lung functionality faster than any other way of quitting smoking.
So anyone that quit smoking could benefit from using vapes even if they are nicotine free, for a few months.
Also when examined by a doctor, if you are vaping it registers as non smoker when measuring lung capacity.
Well they also have many other ingredients besides the bases that absolutely aren’t tested for inhalation safety. Can’t say one way or the other whether they do because the lack of regulations means no studies are requried.
Still in practical use. it is common and always was. So claiming we have no knowledge of it is false. The only case I know of that has shown clear problems was the popcorn lung incident, where the factory had no ventilation, and the workplace was saturated with insane amounts of the butter flavor they made. Despite the atrocious conditions that caused the problem, the flavor was quickly taken out of products even before regulation could kick in. But AFAIK in normal use the flavor is as completely harmless as we can determine.
Yes obviously there is a risk with everything, but the risk is tiny to the amount it is considered negligible.
Extreme use however will always have higher risk. EU has done things to try to prevent extreme vaping, but IDK if it’s working.
Here (Denmark) the flavors are banned almost completely, only tobacco flavor and menthol are allowed.
Kind of funny with the menthol, because if there is danger, the menthol expand the capillaries of the lungs, and allow the vapor to go further inside the lungs.
Which is why you should NEVER smoke menthol cigarettes.
Even water is poisonous, if you drink 4 liters of water quickly, you would very likely die. It completely ruins the salt levels of the body, so your kidneys stop working, and you brain will swell so you die.
Nothing is COMPLETELY harmless, and especially nothing can be proven to be completely harmless. because the next test subject can be the one who is allergic, even if you have tested millions. The biggest test is commercialization where way more people use it than is ever tested in research.
Completely harmless is an unrealistic requirement.
Were those health studies?
You know the lung problem with asbestos is quite unique, and it may have been unknown back then. If buildings weren’t for people, asbestos is very safe regarding fires, and an excellent material in many ways. But it was already in the 60’s that we began to ban and remove that shit, exactly because it is harmful to your lungs.
The bases in vaping have been used for instance for asthma inhalers for many many decades and is STILL used for that, and the pharmaceutical industry is pretty heavily regulated. It is also used as stage fog, in fog machines that spew enormous amounts into rooms full of people, with AFAIK no research showing any health problems, for the operators or the musicians or actors that are exposed to it every day.
But for some reason, when it’s an e-cig some people suddenly have a knee jerk reaction, and think whatever is inhaled in any way is unhealthy.
Your argument is basically whataboutism, and in that line you could ask yourself, what about the smell of making tea, surely that must be harmful too by your logic. All that tea vapor in the air that you inhale in closed rooms.
Actually it has been shown that people that vape to quit smoking, recover lung functionality faster than any other way of quitting smoking.
So anyone that quit smoking could benefit from using vapes even if they are nicotine free, for a few months.
Also when examined by a doctor, if you are vaping it registers as non smoker when measuring lung capacity.
Well they also have many other ingredients besides the bases that absolutely aren’t tested for inhalation safety. Can’t say one way or the other whether they do because the lack of regulations means no studies are requried.
Not many, mostly food grade flavor. Which are tested to be generally safe.
Food grade testing does not test for inhalation safety is the thing tho
Still in practical use. it is common and always was. So claiming we have no knowledge of it is false. The only case I know of that has shown clear problems was the popcorn lung incident, where the factory had no ventilation, and the workplace was saturated with insane amounts of the butter flavor they made. Despite the atrocious conditions that caused the problem, the flavor was quickly taken out of products even before regulation could kick in. But AFAIK in normal use the flavor is as completely harmless as we can determine.
https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/does-vaping-cause-popcorn-lung
Yes obviously there is a risk with everything, but the risk is tiny to the amount it is considered negligible.
Extreme use however will always have higher risk. EU has done things to try to prevent extreme vaping, but IDK if it’s working.
Here (Denmark) the flavors are banned almost completely, only tobacco flavor and menthol are allowed.
Kind of funny with the menthol, because if there is danger, the menthol expand the capillaries of the lungs, and allow the vapor to go further inside the lungs.
Which is why you should NEVER smoke menthol cigarettes.
Even water is poisonous, if you drink 4 liters of water quickly, you would very likely die. It completely ruins the salt levels of the body, so your kidneys stop working, and you brain will swell so you die.
Nothing is COMPLETELY harmless, and especially nothing can be proven to be completely harmless. because the next test subject can be the one who is allergic, even if you have tested millions. The biggest test is commercialization where way more people use it than is ever tested in research. Completely harmless is an unrealistic requirement.