With Russia funding its war effort through financial gains from the close of the Strait of Hormuz, and amping up attacks while Trump’s eye is turned towards the Middle East, experts tell Maira Butt that this is a very delicate moment for Ukraine
This is what Europe should propose to Putin. Russia will withdraw from all land it seized from Ukraine after the 2022 invasion. NATO would be dissolved and replaced with a European alliance. Ukraine and Canada would be permitted to join but not the US. All sanctions against Russia will be lifted. Russia will not be required to pay reparations. If Putin doesn’t accept the proposal, the UK and France would send troops to Ukraine.
Get Trump out of office, get an American president that isn’t AIPAC. Treat Putin in Russia the same as we just did Venezuela and Iran.
Putin gets nothing forever. (As he’s dead). Democracy stops collapsing world wide due to his influence over insecure billionaires. US gets to keep breaking bad. But in a way that actually benefits the world instead of just the Epstein class.
Territory with its resources is his primary reason for wanting Ukraine. My proposal doesn’t appease Putin. He will have to cede all territory he seized after the 2022 invasion.
Crimea is Ukraine, let alone the rest of occupied territories. It’s not just some “land” - despite everything there are Ukrainian people living there.
Russia keeping land annexed by brute force will not achieve anything and only add billions upon billions of debt to rebuild and resettle what was eradicated.
Question is, why would Putin accept that? NATO already seems to be on the way out, he already holds more territory than in 2022, and with the current oil prices they’re making a bunch of money, and EU doesn’t have the fiscal space to help Ukraine or to justify a direct intervention
I am not suggesting a world war, but it might be inevitable. Britain and France experiencing the terrible loss of lives during World War I thought they could bring peace by giving Hitler the Sudetenland. It didn’t work.
Under my proposal, there has to be a peace agreement since Russia will have to leave the land it seized after the 2022 invasion. However, if Ukraine agrees to a ceasefire and gives Russia the land it has already seized, that’s fine.
This is what Europe should propose to Putin. Russia will withdraw from all land it seized from Ukraine after the 2022 invasion. NATO would be dissolved and replaced with a European alliance. Ukraine and Canada would be permitted to join but not the US. All sanctions against Russia will be lifted. Russia will not be required to pay reparations. If Putin doesn’t accept the proposal, the UK and France would send troops to Ukraine.
Here’s my plan:
Get Trump out of office, get an American president that isn’t AIPAC. Treat Putin in Russia the same as we just did Venezuela and Iran.
Putin gets nothing forever. (As he’s dead). Democracy stops collapsing world wide due to his influence over insecure billionaires. US gets to keep breaking bad. But in a way that actually benefits the world instead of just the Epstein class.
Russia is much more powerful than Venezuela or Iran.
I doubt they ever where. But certainly not anymore. There is doubt their nuclear arsenal even works after decades of neglect.
You sound like a Russian sympathiser.
What? I gave a solution to ending the war in which Russia would gain much less land than Putin wants.
So… Give him all he wants without any consequences?
Under my plan Putin doesn’t get all he wants. He will be getting far less territory than he wants.
Except he’s not in it for territories.
Also you got to remember all previous attempts to pacify an aggressor, starting from a nice chap by the name of Neville.
Territory with its resources is his primary reason for wanting Ukraine. My proposal doesn’t appease Putin. He will have to cede all territory he seized after the 2022 invasion.
Where did this conclusion come from?
Yeah but without compensation / reparations ? It’s absolutely a bad deal for the victims.
He’d not get the territories.
Crimea is Ukraine, let alone the rest of occupied territories. It’s not just some “land” - despite everything there are Ukrainian people living there.
Russia keeping land annexed by brute force will not achieve anything and only add billions upon billions of debt to rebuild and resettle what was eradicated.
Question is, why would Putin accept that? NATO already seems to be on the way out, he already holds more territory than in 2022, and with the current oil prices they’re making a bunch of money, and EU doesn’t have the fiscal space to help Ukraine or to justify a direct intervention
Putin might not accept it. Then Britain and France have to join the war and force an outcome.
So, appeasement spiced with a paper tiger’s threat? This “proposal” is insulting.
Any suggestion of a world war can only come from a lunatic.
I am not suggesting a world war, but it might be inevitable. Britain and France experiencing the terrible loss of lives during World War I thought they could bring peace by giving Hitler the Sudetenland. It didn’t work.
Put something in that Putin can use to say Ukraine has been denazified, and it’s a deal that he should logically take.
But Ukraine will also insist on getting their children back. What is extremely reasonable. And I have no idea how logical Putin is nowadays.
You can make a cease-fire in that format, but not a peace agreement.
Under my proposal, there has to be a peace agreement since Russia will have to leave the land it seized after the 2022 invasion. However, if Ukraine agrees to a ceasefire and gives Russia the land it has already seized, that’s fine.
If they wrapped that in the right spin it might just give Putin enough wiggle room to back down without losing his head
Yes, Europe should get China involved. Peace would be good for trade between China and Europe, which includes Ukraine.