• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    There doesn’t have to be a good guy in this story. It is perfectly plausible for this entire mess to be driven solely by villains while the innocents, who have no control over any of it, be its victims.

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      3 hours ago

      That is pretty much true throughout all of history. You almost never have “good guys”; it’s usually “bad guys” versus “worse guys.”

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      7 hours ago

      Yeah I don’t get why people are choosing sides when the sides are a Pedo-fascist regime and a theocratic dictatorship. This war is stupid af, but I wouldn’t shed a tear if the Iranian regime collapses due to it.

      R.I.P. to the innocent Civilians caught in the crossfire.

      • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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        5 hours ago

        because iran is not the only place the pedo-fascists are destroying, have destroyed and are willing to destroy.

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          4 hours ago

          You dont have to side with a theocracy that murders women just because the other is a bunch of pedophile war mongers.

          It is possible to be anti-war and dislike both sides.

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            2 hours ago

            the innocents being bombed by the empire have all my support, for i live in a country that was also ravaged by the empire.

            no both siding a one-sided conflict here. iran has the right to defend itself, and the us is a common enemy to all of us.

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              2 hours ago

              I too give all of my support to the innocents being bombed.

              The Iranian Regime is everything but innocent.

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                1 hour ago

                the iranian government is absolutely correct in taking on the us regime and it’s war, and anyone mindful of innocents wants the us put in it’s place.

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                  41 minutes ago

                  The Iranian government should be dismantled and all it’s executors put on trial for their crimes against humanity and their citizens.

                  The same should happen to the current US administration.

                  The fact you’re trying to legitimise the Iranian government in any way is baffling to me.

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                    18 minutes ago

                    the fact you think iran and the us are in any way comparable at all is baffling to me.

                    this is one non-comprehensive list of the sheer amount human suffering the empire has unleashed upon the planet. no country on the planet (including any of their enemies like iran russia china or north korea) have ever done a fraction of the evil, even if you assume absolute truth of all the propaganda about them.

                    and the amount of people the us empire have killed lies only on estimation, but it probably reaches the hundreds of millions easily. probably billions if you count the ones cast to poverty.

                    the us is currently funding or otherwise participating on all current genocides and wars going on atm. there is no “both sides” here.

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            3 hours ago

            You don’t have to like Iran to recognize that the only reason this war is happening is because of the US, Iran didn’t start the war.

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      6 hours ago

      I kinda default to “underdog=good guy” in these situations. The people with trillions of dollars reaching across the globe to grub for more are typically in the wrong.