• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    19 hours ago

    I can understand the urge to assume everything Trump says is a lie, statistically you would be correct, but thats not a sound evidence based argument.

    As much as Trump is scum of the earth who deserves to die, so was Ayatollah.

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        19 hours ago

        Reuters article

        The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military matters, did not rule ​out the possibility that new evidence could emerge that absolves the U.S. of responsibility and points to another responsible party in the incident.

        TheIndependent:

        Citing two U.S. officials, Reuters reported

        Do you not even read these? Its pretty hard to have a conversation if I’m putting in 10x the effort as you.

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          18 hours ago

          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/world/middleeast/iran-school-us-strikes-naval-base.html

          When everything we can see and read, and our fucking president says yes we will hit schools everything is fair game its showing we bombed it.

          Do you not even read these? Its pretty hard to have a conversation if I’m putting in 10x the effort as you.

          Based on you ignoring 3 different analysis hard to belive.

          Especially after saying you were fine with the school getting bombed and okay war with Iran.

          So 🤷

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            Determining precisely what happened has been impeded by the lack of visible weapons fragments and the inability of outside reporters to reach the scene.

            Look, when evidence comes out of USA responsibility, I will be the first to condemn them, to call for murder trials and sending them to the hague.

            But we don’t have evidence and the constant confident assertion that the USA is responsible really peeves me.

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              But we don’t have evidence and the constant confident assertion that the USA is responsible really peeves me.

              Why? Because you can’t consider USA or Israel would intentionally target a school with precision munitions, would be dumb enough to accidentally target a school or think there’s other powers in the area that would use precision munitions as a false flag during an actual attack?

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                Why would you assume I cannot consider two of the three possible events that I listed at the start of this chain?

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                  Because you are still trying to ignore and defect that the US did it, and agure against it when trying to disprove the evidence?

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              We do have evidence and no you will not ever accept that it is “good” enough evidance.

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                  The dead children in a warzone where the us is the aggressor (and israel has denied while the us has not). Oh and then your shitheal of a leader stated on video that they will continue to target schools and kids.

                  Next your going to try telling us that the Iranian forces bombed their own desalination plants.

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                    If everything Trump said was true then we would be living in a very different timeline. It is not evidence.

                    To be clear, I’m heavily in support of congress passing a war powers resolution to end Trump’s bullshit, I am not defending the USA’s actions, but I demand we hold whoever is responsible accountable and part of that is ensuring we find out who it is first.

                    That said I think things are more nuanced than calling the USA an aggressor, given Iran’s involvement in the Gaza Genocide and their slaughtering of their own civilians after recent riots. While I don’t agree with Trump’s war, I do think we need to be supporting a rebellion against the dictatorship in Iran.

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          Do you not even read these? Its pretty hard to have a conversation if I’m putting in 10x the effort as you.

          You really need to put more effort in, the world watches what the us is doing (war crimes) and the very idea that you want to build a higher ramp for proof is just silly. A school was bombed, by the us of a in a one two follow up fashion. The us does not deny this they just don’t want to say 100% it was for sure them on purpose, so rational minds the world over have figured out that the school in a nation the us is and was bombing was bombed by the us.

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            I’m honestly surprised they read any of them. Normally they just cycle back do different reason or arguments rather than admit being wrong.