US-Israel war on Iran: Netanyahu says ‘all indications’ show supreme leader Khamenei has been killed – live
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Israeli prime minister addresses media after US and Israel launch major combat operation against Iran; 201 people killed in Iran, media reports say

Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency has reported that at least 40 people were killed after an Israeli strike hit a girls’ elementary school in Minab in the southern Hormozgan province.

This is a developing story. I’ve provided some micro-updates in the comments, focusing on the verification of the story.

I recommend this Middle East Eye, and this Guardian article for more on this story.

  • adhd_traco@piefed.socialOPEnglish
    61·
    2 months ago

    https://piefed.social/comment/10332190

    It’s also not unheard of that Israel targets schools, children, incubators, etc. on purpose and washes the narrative by targeting journalists and lying.

    Like, has Germany even started calling it a genocide yet? You say it’s typical Iran. But do you acknowledge, it’s typical Israel that their horrors immediately get denied, put into question, etc.?

    No, journalists allowed into the country do not count, as they only get to report what the regime allows them to.

    Iran is not the US or Europe, and you won’t see much of reality if you only accept it on a silver-platter.

    Do actual eye-witnesses count, at least?

      • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        However, so far, the attacks of the US and Israel against Iran have been very precise and only legitimate military targets and personnel have been hit. Soon into the 12 day war Iranian civilians realized how precise the attacks were and were not afraid of going out. Instead, the attacks have been celebrated.

        Was this verified by independent sources?

        There’s been leaks from the IRGC that the plan was to attack its own people in the case of a US or Israeli attack.

        So you want independent verification of some incidents but leaks are fine as long as it aligns with your bias?

        Are you aware of your hypocrisy?

      • adhd_traco@piefed.socialOPEnglish
        41·
        2 months ago

        However, so far, the attacks of the US and Israel against Iran have been very precise and only legitimate military targets and personnel have been hit.

        For that to be true, you’re gonna have to discount all this (more pending):

        • school staff eye-witnesses speak of the strike, including of rescue efforts that match Revolutionary Guard footage shared on telegram.
        • factchecking service used by major news org verifies video of the site-post impact.
        • reuters verifies the same video
        • Journalist in Iran aljazeera trusts enough to use his reporting ON IRAN, says there is more verification beyond the governmental statements.

        Honestly, I shouldn’t even be listing these, when they are almost as concisely available in the linked updates.

          • adhd_traco@piefed.socialOPEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            I apologize, and thank you for your patience. I didn’t quite get your point about origin of strike.

            It sounds pretty damn dodgy to me. But, yes, there is no verification of the strike’s origins to my knowledge.

            Actually there is at least some verifying material:

            From the last image of the Factmeh presentation

            A map of the “Asef Guards Barracks” area shows that the Shajareh Tayyebeh IRGC Navy Girls’ School is located within the compound.

              • adhd_traco@piefed.socialOPEnglish
                1·
                2 months ago

                We have the same evidence, I can’t really add anything concrete to it.

                What’s your point? That it’s more likely this was a self-sabotage? Or that it’s still a possibility? Without concrete evidence, I don’t know. And I don’t really wanna theorize, but having focused on this story, I care about the girls and the people at the school and their relatives. They are not just numbers. So I’ve thought about this a bit as well.

                If they [the aggressors] missed that there is a fucking school with very young school girls as part of the compound, then it’s an intelligence failure and still the aggressor’s responsibility to have caused this tragedy through their shit senseless offensive. And if they did know, they failed a moral test by attack anyway.

                I don’t accept that they needed to kill them as part of war strategies. Expect some damn accountability. That includes if Iran self-struck, but even that, as you claim being a rumoured strategy, is also something the aggressors should’ve known about.