More than a year after a 33-year-old woman froze to death on Austria’s highest mountain, her boyfriend goes on trial on Thursday accused of gross negligent manslaughter.

Kerstin G died of hypothermia on a mountain climbing trip to the Grossglockner that went horribly wrong. Her boyfriend is accused of leaving her unprotected and exhausted close to the summit in stormy conditions in the early hours of 19 January 2025, while he went to get help.

The trial has sparked interest and debate, not just in Austria but in mountain climbing communities far beyond its borders.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    11 hours ago

    Unless he tied her and dragged her up the mountain or broke her legs before leaving her there I don’t see how he is any more responsible than she is.

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      3 hours ago

      My ex used to claim they could do X or Y task and I would make arrangements under the assumption they knew what they were talking about.

      We’d get to the point they would need to utilise said skill, and they’d turn to me and say actually I thought I could wing it but I can’t, you’re going to have to do this now.

      If I’d been told at the start that they didn’t know, I would have spent more time investigating the situation and upskilled myself in preparation. Instead, I’d ask “Do we have everything we need? Does this look good?”, get told it’s fine - and it wasn’t.

      The lady in the article may well have deferred to his expertise when asking if she was adequately prepared, and trusted his judgement over a quick Dr Google search.

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        57 minutes ago

        It’s perfectly understandable in many different situations but climbing the highest peak in Austria is not one of them. A normal person would go for an easy hike first, do some multiday hiking next, do some winter hiking, do some multiday winter hiking and at the same time climb ~2000m peak, climb ~3000m peak and then try climbing 3.700m peak in winter. You can skip some steps if you feel comfortable and someone with more experience helps you but if you find yourself in a situation that’s completely beyond what you can manage it’s on you. Normal person should also understand the difference between professional mountain guide and just another climber. As you said, people can lie and you can never put absolute trust in someone.

        And yes, I can imagine a fucked up scenario where the guy manipulates her and intentionally puts her in a situation she can’t handle but for me it’s closer to situation like romance fraud than to criminal negligence. You would have to prove that he gaslighted her, presented her with false information and otherwise manipulated her over extended period of time to build trust with the purpose of killing her. If you can’t prove that then we’re talking about two consenting adults doing something dangerous and one of them dying.

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      7 hours ago

      I don’t know. I’ve seen some people take their friends into some pretty dangerous situations then had to limp out their injured scared friends while they continue off and enjoy themselves on their adventure. As a quick scenario to highlight that aspect, if you agree to drink a beer but it’s poison, you agreed but you were misled

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        7 hours ago

        That’s not “misleading” someone. That’s poisoning which is straight murder.

        If I told you to do base jumping with me and that it’s easy and safe, would you jump? I imagine not (unless you actually do base jumping) because you would immediately recognize it’s crazy. If I told you to climb the highest peak in Austria during winter with me you should also be able to evaluate if it’s beyond your ability or not. If it was achievable than neither of them could predict what will happen and it was an accident. If it was clearly too dangerous for her she should be able to recognize it.