• WonderRin@sh.itjust.works
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    Elon Musk being against the social media ban on under 16-year-olds is him basically reaching a good conclusion from the wrong equation, because he’s not doing it out of privacy concerns about how everyone would probably have to verify themselves to prove that they’re older than 16 years old. He’s doing it because it would not be good for his business.

    I’m not sure how they could implement this without requiring ID verification on every single internet user. I guess I’m not familiar with the topic enough to say if there is another way that they could pursue, but even if there is, at the same time, I’m not too confident in the governments opting for the other options. I’m from neither Spain nor Greece, so I guess I can’t speak on this, but I’m just referring to governments as a general group. And because a lot of different countries are trying to do this at the same time, I’m also not too confident about my own country not doing this at some point, sooner or later.

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    4 hours ago

    I don’t think we should be taking advice on children from somebody in the Epstein Files. Even if it might have just been him being a pathetic loser begging to go to the cool kids’ party like he’s 13 in body and not just in personality.

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      I would rather authenticate with my digital ID than make stupid videos or send photos of my ID. Your video and ID share way more data about you than digital ID.

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      6 hours ago

      Ignoring digital ID being used as state snooping and control for a moment.

      It’s crazy age verification would ever need to exist online. Children cannot buy an internet connection.

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    What’s the argument against a ban? I don’t see a downside to banning social media for kids. In theory they would be forced to build in-person social connections and local communities. After 16 they can expand into the social media space. Personally, I think it should be tied to something like drinking age.

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      3 hours ago

      It depends how it will be implemented. Do you want to send your ID to Facebook etc.? Or do you want to make a video call before you can use a social media site? Will only the big players be required to keep your age verification details, or will each forum, each Fediverse site be required to gather and keep your personal ID?

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        2 hours ago

        Exactly:

        not so terrible way to do it: to verify your age you get redirected to government run service, you authenticate with you digital ID, get redirected back to original site with information about you age only

        terrible way to do it: tell each site to handle age verification on their side

        Knowing Spanish government they will go with the terrible way.

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        2 hours ago

        So the only arguments against the ban come down to how to perform the age verification and not issues with the ban itself. That makes sense. Maybe we could institute some kind of one time passcode where it’s like an MFA for age. Like picture your passport can generate a hash (unidirectional) that just contains like month and year of birth and is verified via PGP with the passport issuing body as the cert authority. So the only actual information you are sending is a hashed and cryptographically verified month and year of birth. That should probably make everyone happy.

        • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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          2 hours ago

          elmicha only mentions this one arguments but parents will have more. Some parents claim that this will isolate their kids and since social media is good at radicalizing children fascist parents will see this as simply censorship, cutting their kids for valuable, fascist content.