• pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    Tbh maduro is a stupid person, and while this is a violation to international laws, he deserves to be in jail for life after all crimes against humanity on 2014 strikes. I do not feel bad by his faith. The best scenario would be the venezuelan people make justice, but regime had all the state forces. What option do they had???

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      Maduro is bad, but that’s not what this is about. It’s about extrajudicial killings by the US military, and the kidnapping of a foreign head of state. Even if he’s evil and deserves it, that doesn’t give the US the right to do it. If the world comes together and decides it’s necessary, that’s one thing. Unilaterally invading, murdering civilians, and kidnapping a head of state and their spouse is not okay in any circumstance.

      And the worst thing we can do is turn a blind eye to it just because Maduro is evil, because that tells the US that they can do whatever they want as long as they pretend to do it for noble reasons.

      We did that with Iraq and that was one of the biggest clusterfucks in modern history, costing hundreds of thousands of lives, trillions of dollars, and destabilizing the entire region while fueling anti-American sentiment and Islamist extremism for decades.

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        Finally this is different. There isn’t a religious background in this war not even a nationalist background. Venezuelan people are very affected and even embarrassed about their nationality. They are seen as beggars, homeless people by the rest of south america. Morale is very low and a lot are supporting US now.

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          Maduro may have needed to go, but that isn’t Trump’s decision to make unilaterally. And by allowing Trump to do this we’re giving him permission to enact his will anywhere. Drugs also come from Mexico, can he invade them? How about Minnesota? What if he decided that Greenland deserves freedom from Europe?

          And if Trump can do it, why shouldn’t Xi be allowed to invade Taiwan? And what the hell - let’s let Putin have Finland and Netanyahu have Jordan, so long as they super duper totally believe they’re liberating people.

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            I am glad if Taiwan happens tbh. Hardware nowadays is only for the 6 big corpos. Look RAM crisis, entire memory crisis.

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        They were in a catch 22 situation: the last elections were a fraudulent shitshow, and as the dictator has every state power literally Venezuela people can’t just vote for other party. It’s not like in US where you have sort of democracy. The venezuelan army is an active political actor and can force people one way or another.

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      Tell me one thing of the many bad things Maduro did towards Venezuelans that would improve as a colony under a pedophile raging mad narcissist?

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        I am living in south america, I’m latino and I can talk with all argument: it will improve dramatically once the dictator has fallen. Vzla is the country with largest oil reserves and still living in extreme poverty. In 2014 strikes how many people was killed, tortured, disappeared, even violated. The last elections where a shitshow, and almost all observers said there were fraud. So yeah He deserves everything he’s gonna have.

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          again, how is any of that going to improve? the orange pedophile is doing the same to his own people, do you really think he’ll respect human rights of Venezuelans?

          I am not saying Maduro was good in any way, but Venezuelans just fell from the frying pan into the fire but seem too close to see it

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          so like all other trump problems, the only advantage is when he backtracks from his own mess

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              Ok not sure what you are talking about here… but in any case, the USA is just going to do what it always does, steal the oil, make the big oil companies richer, still sell gas expensive to everyone… that is not helping Venezuelans in anyway

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      US is friend with many authoritarian regimes in middle east and beyond because they do whatever US wants. Maduro being bad/stupid isnt the point.

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      he deserves to be in jail for life after all crimes against humanity

      All former US presidents still alive should be Maduro’s jail buddies then.