The unofficial Taliban restriction has forced women into desperate and absurd situations as they seek medical help, according to interviews given to the Guardian and Zan Times
And how and why were they able to obtain power in '96? Because of prior imperial meddling!
The Taliban wouldn’t have been able to stay in power with policies like this if they’d been in power for those entire 30 years. Eventually they’d have collapsed under the contradictions or reformed to be less restrictive.
No, this isn’t happening just because of that. It’s happening because of religion. Nothing more nothing less. What the USSR and the US did over there doesn’t excuse what the religious are doing to it now.
All their neighbors have the same religion, why are they different?
The obvious difference between Afghanistan and their neighbors is they were invaded and occupied. It isn’t an “excuse” but simply an explanation. Reactionary policy like this is a reaction to imperialism; without invasion and prior meddling the Taliban wouldn’t have the political support to implement a policy this backwards.
This won’t last in the long run, a policy like this will collapse their country. Either their population will start to crater as half their population is unable to go to the doctor, or women and the people who love them will start picking up guns. Reactionaries can’t actually reproduce society, it’s always a circular firing squad with them.
Most of their neighbors who are ruled by religious fanatics are the same…the Saudis we are allies with and they’re bad with women’s rights as well. What’s your excuse there? We’ve never bombed them.
Stop defending religious extremist with “well they have been bombed”…most countries on the planet have been invaded or bombed or been at war at one point or another.
Ukraine is actively being invaded and they don’t seem to be taking women back to the stone age.
No the Saudis have oil money they don’t need our money.
But that doesn’t explain your point that Afghanistan is a place that is ultra conservative towards Basically anyone but a man…you said they’re like that because of the US bombing them. The Saudis are just as bad towards women’s rights and we don’t bomb them…so what’s your excuse for their treatment of women?
That’s rather a limited consideration of all the factors.
Universally, the more rural places are, the more religious conservative they are. The poorer a place is the more strongly religious people are. The more chaotic the situation is, the more strongly people turn to religion (or other existential anchors). This is true even in developed countries. Cities are liberal/blue, and rural areas are conservative/red.
Yeah, we shouldn’t be blind to the harm imperialism and colonialism has done (and continues to do in places like Syria) to the world… I just don’t think that’s always the only reason for everything, though it certainly is a major reason for a lot of things.
Everything comes down to the material conditions. It’s not all imperialism specifically, development in rural areas is simply difficult in general, but the only way to sustain a backwards reactionary force like the Taliban is through intentional impoverishment.
Without that, I suspect Afghanistan might look more like Iran. Perhaps still conservative, not backwards.
Afghanistan is made up of a bunch of tribes. Most who live there don’t see the country of Afghanistan as a whole. The reason the Taliban has such a hold is because of this division and because of how religious the population there is.
This is happening because the US invaded Afghanistan.
Unless the plan was to make Afghanistan the 51st state, this was always going to be the result.
are the women in saudi covered up because of the us as well?
Yes? Do you think kingdom of Saudi Arabia would still exist if it weren’t for the US? The US props this stuff up all over West Asia.
In no case has any state been better because of US intervention. Ever.
Does the civil war count?
No
Why not? Would the south have been better under the Confederacy?
We got that anyway, and slavers got reparations.
The Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 96 until the US invaded. Now they’re back in power.
And how and why were they able to obtain power in '96? Because of prior imperial meddling!
The Taliban wouldn’t have been able to stay in power with policies like this if they’d been in power for those entire 30 years. Eventually they’d have collapsed under the contradictions or reformed to be less restrictive.
Prior meddling from the Soviet Union.
And Saudi (which really is just an extension of the US) supporting resistance fighters like Osama Bin Laden.
Good thing that imperial boomerang never came back!
No, this isn’t happening just because of that. It’s happening because of religion. Nothing more nothing less. What the USSR and the US did over there doesn’t excuse what the religious are doing to it now.
There’s nothing more binary in geo politics than an idiot.
All their neighbors have the same religion, why are they different?
The obvious difference between Afghanistan and their neighbors is they were invaded and occupied. It isn’t an “excuse” but simply an explanation. Reactionary policy like this is a reaction to imperialism; without invasion and prior meddling the Taliban wouldn’t have the political support to implement a policy this backwards.
This won’t last in the long run, a policy like this will collapse their country. Either their population will start to crater as half their population is unable to go to the doctor, or women and the people who love them will start picking up guns. Reactionaries can’t actually reproduce society, it’s always a circular firing squad with them.
Most of their neighbors who are ruled by religious fanatics are the same…the Saudis we are allies with and they’re bad with women’s rights as well. What’s your excuse there? We’ve never bombed them.
Stop defending religious extremist with “well they have been bombed”…most countries on the planet have been invaded or bombed or been at war at one point or another.
Ukraine is actively being invaded and they don’t seem to be taking women back to the stone age.
Just stop with the excuses.
The US props them up!
No the Saudis have oil money they don’t need our money.
But that doesn’t explain your point that Afghanistan is a place that is ultra conservative towards Basically anyone but a man…you said they’re like that because of the US bombing them. The Saudis are just as bad towards women’s rights and we don’t bomb them…so what’s your excuse for their treatment of women?
That’s rather a limited consideration of all the factors.
Universally, the more rural places are, the more religious conservative they are. The poorer a place is the more strongly religious people are. The more chaotic the situation is, the more strongly people turn to religion (or other existential anchors). This is true even in developed countries. Cities are liberal/blue, and rural areas are conservative/red.
Do you think places are poor by accident?
In the case of Afghanistan this, too, is imperialism. Underdevelopment is a policy decision, and they know whose fault it is.
Yeah, we shouldn’t be blind to the harm imperialism and colonialism has done (and continues to do in places like Syria) to the world… I just don’t think that’s always the only reason for everything, though it certainly is a major reason for a lot of things.
Everything comes down to the material conditions. It’s not all imperialism specifically, development in rural areas is simply difficult in general, but the only way to sustain a backwards reactionary force like the Taliban is through intentional impoverishment.
Without that, I suspect Afghanistan might look more like Iran. Perhaps still conservative, not backwards.
Afghanistan is made up of a bunch of tribes. Most who live there don’t see the country of Afghanistan as a whole. The reason the Taliban has such a hold is because of this division and because of how religious the population there is.
That’s not that different from any other nation in their early development. The point of the nation is to unite tribes into a single nationality.
Uniting disparate groups is one of the main functions of religion, monotheism especially.