“But my dad was a toolmaker!”.
Its Theresa May all over again. Dull as dishwater politician refuses to leave despite them being the central reason the government is failing.
We need to remove the friends of israel influencers
Assumed office 5 July 2024
Not quite 2 years. The UK carousel is a sight to behold.
Am I having a stroke? Or did I just read about a genuinely good political development in the UK?
This is very much a sideways move. There isn’t any one in the labour party that would be markedly better for my money ATM.
That is by design.
Never forget that as soon as Starmer got it in following the “anti-semite” smear campaign against the previous Labour Party leader, Corbyn, he immediately started purging leftwingers from the Party.
The “Labour” Party today has nothing at all to do with the working class specifically or the leftwing in general (and Starmer seems to be working hard at paying back Israel for giving him the Labour Party leadership with that smear campaign)
Labour is now at best a party of people with no principles and no ideology who got into politics for personal upside maximization only.
Don’t get too excited, wait and see what his replacement does first.
Technically, neither, but don’t get used to it. You’ve got really fucked up and shitty election about to happen. And it doesn’t look like it’s gonna end well.
last week tonight segment on the subject
Edit: excuse me, but it appears that my information is a bit out of date
Andy Burnham, who won a compelling majority in the Makerfield byelection overnight, is expected to travel to London on Monday to meet MPs in the expectation of becoming prime minister within weeks. One cabinet minister – who has not previously told the prime minister to go – said his departure was now inevitable.
Unless Andy does a 180, he’s a competent socialist leader.
I think the bigger question is whether or not the system will allow him to deviate from their current course of self destruction.
He’s already committed not only to not sacking the loathsome Shabana Mahmood, but promoting her. He’s not going to change Labour’s Reform-Lite anti-immigrant policies, he’s unlikely to change the UK’s support of the Gaza genocide, he’s not going to stop the persecution of trans people, and he’s going to continue Rachel Reeves’s servility to the City of London on economic policy. But he might put water and the railways under state ownership, though where the money will come from is a mystery while Labour is still bound by the fiscal strait jacket.
Oh, what wonderful news!
Depend on who is going to replace him
Seems to me Keir Starmer is hated mostly because he can’t do the impossible.
Why do you think Andy Burnham is better?is affirming trans rights impossible?
is saying Israel is committing a genocide impossible?
is not massively invade people privacy impossible?
is not selling out NHS data to Palantir impossible?
Will Burnham do these things?
That’s the question!
Is jumping up and down while waving your arms impossible?
AFAIK Starmer has done nothing to reduce Trans rights.
You are making a giant straw man argument, would it make a difference for Starmer to merely say Israel is committing genocide?
Invading peoples privacy was implemented by the Conservatives.
While you IMO have a point about Palantir, the goal is to improve management and analysis of health data. It is not about “selling” data.You are basically just proving my point, as you fail to point to anything Starmer actually did wrong.
Starmer is mostly unpopular because everything has gotten worse after Brexit, and Starmer is unable to turn it around quickly.lol you are delusional. sure if you just cover your ears and explain away all things Starmer did wrong, however unjustified, then of course you would think he did nothing wrong.
you have an agenda to begin with, then are trying your hardest to explain away everything that doesn’t agree with your agenda. you are not open to have your mind changed.
I often have an agenda, but regarding who is PM of UK, no I don’t.
AFAIK Starmer has done nothing to reduce Trans rights.
From Wikipedia:
“In July 2024, UK Prime Minister and Labour Party leader Keir Starmer stated that trans women should not have the right to use women-only spaces, even with a gender recognition certificate.[14][15][16] He also ruled out allowing trans people to self-ID.[17] Starmer also said he would continue the block on the Gender Recognition Reform Bill in Scotland.[18] In December 2024, Starmer followed through on this by making the ban on puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria in under-18s permanent on the basis of “independent expert advice that there is currently an unacceptable safety risk in the continued prescription of puberty blockers to children.”[19] Despite the assertion that puberty blockers are unsafe when prescribed to children, they remain available for the treatment of precocious puberty.[20]”
You are making a giant straw man argument, would it make a difference for Starmer to merely say Israel is committing genocide?
Yes, it would. Gaza is on the ballot.
Invading peoples privacy was implemented by the Conservatives.
The Labour party voted for the act, and have overseen its implementation.
While you IMO have a point about Palantir, the goal is to improve management and analysis of health data. It is not about “selling” data.
The NHS’s goal is to improve management and analysis. Palantir’s goal is to accrue and sell data. The problem is that the contract was awarded to Palantir - by the Labour gov.
You are basically just proving my point, as you fail to point to anything Starmer actually did wrong.
Reality begs to differ, see above.
Starmer is mostly unpopular because everything has gotten worse after Brexit, and Starmer is unable to turn it around quickly.
Starmer is unpopular because he’s an appalling politician. And -to be as kind and equable as can be- a dishonest shit rag. Blaming Brexit for Starmer’s failures is like Trump blaming the Democrats for the reflecting pool.
In July 2024, UK Prime Minister and Labour Party leader Keir Starmer stated…
This is based on advice from EHRC, it is very unusual for governments to go against such advice.
Palantir’s goal is to accrue and sell data.
Not entirely correct, their goal is to sell AI services, which is exactly what this is.
a dishonest shit rag.
That may be true, and if true I would agree that’s a major problem, but you have not shown that.
Blaming Brexit for Starmer’s failures is like Trump blaming the Democrats for the reflecting pool.
You can’t be serious?! That’s a laughably stupid claim. Also I’m not blaming Brexit directly, the Conservatives messed that up, but the numerous long term consequences of Brexit, like a bad economy that isn’t easy to turn around, also because of Brexit.
AFAIK Starmer has done nothing to reduce Trans rights
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e2rj3zj02o
Would it make a difference for Starmer to merely say Israel is committing genocide?
Yes it would be a start
Invading peoples privacy was implemented by the Conservatives
They might have started it by passing the OSA but it was Labour who first started enforcing it, tried to backdoor iCloud, have decided we need to dox ourselves to use social media, have stated that Google and Apple have 3 months to install government spyware on everyone’s phone, and are probably going to ban VPNs soon. Yes I’m aware the Conservatives probably support all those policies as well but that doesn’t excuse Labour of any blame.
Starmer is mostly unpopular because everything has gotten worse after Brexit, and Starmer is unable to turn it around quickly
I don’t expect a quick turnaround, I’d settle for just a bit of deceleration at the moment
You are blaming Starmer for things he had very little influence on.
The EHRC making an extremely bad recommendation is not the fault of Starmer.
We were all (normal people) shocked when reading about this recommendation, but I don’t think it’s the fault of Starmer.
Here it is also unusual to go against advice from a government advisory organization, although I find it extremely confusing that it is not part of any actual government department? It is extremely frustrating to have such incompetent advisory departments, and have politicians follow their advice. We also have such issues here in Denmark sometimes. 🙄
We have something similar here called “etisk råd” (ethical advice) and I only remember the government once go against their recommendation. which was to ban circumcision entirely. Which politicians denied to follow based on that Denmark made a promise to protect the Jewish minority in Denmark. So I don’t think you can reasonably blame Starmer from following such council, despite it’s obviously moronic. I wonder what kind of circle jerk has been going on in EHRC to come up with that moronic advice?
Here “Etisk råd” is under the ministry of health. But the 17 members are appointed by parliament and 4 different ministries, and are serving for 3 years.I don’t expect a quick turnaround, I’d settle for just a bit of deceleration at the moment
If you think Burnham can do better, I hope you are right. I just don’t think Starmer is the cause of the problems, he is a victim of them, just as the rest of the UK population.
What I would agree on is that Starmer is not very inspiring, if Burnham is better on that part, that could have tremendous importance. UK needs someone competent AND inspiring, because hope that things will actually begin to change for the better is an enormous factor too.I wouldn’t say he had very little influence, but I agree he’s not solely responsible. In the same way that David Cameron wasn’t solely responsible for Brexit, Boris Johnson wasn’t solely responsible for our shit covid response and Donald Trump isn’t solely responsible for everything bad happening in the US right now. They’re still figureheads who deserve all the hate they get.
And no I don’t think Burnham can do better. Nothing is going to improve so long as a Labour, Conservative or Reform government is in charge. And there will not be another viable left wing alternative until the Labour party fucks off and dies like the Conservatives did to pave the way for Reform.
OK that’s pretty dramatic, but I agree UK seriously needs a democracy overhaul. Get rid of FPP voting and the house of lords for starters IMO.
Then you can have multiple parties with coalition governments like true democracies.
Prime ministers have a short shelf live in the UK.
UK is the new Italy of Europe.
A political madhouse, and ruining their own economy with stupidity.Truly, it’s getting hard to keep up! Have any of them shown promise? From across the pond it seems like a clown parade
Yeah some of them have shown promise. Burnham does. Even Starmer showed promise.
It’s the problem that they seem to turn into zombies as soon as they get into power that’s the problem. Let’s see what happens with this next one.
Honestly that i think is the strong point of Westminster system, they have the power to force PM to resign and they exercised it. Once they have a vote of no confidence the PM must resign, and if the vote is called by the governing party, it’s almost always lead to that, barring a faction of the rulling party colluding with the opposition to make sure the PM stay.
American are stuck with Orange.
Votes of no confidence are in a government, not a leader, and are done by Parliament, not the individual parties. That’s not how Starmer will be replaced. It’ll be an internal Labour Party leadership challenge process.
I don’t know how starmer will be replaced, but that is one way to oust a PM and can be done if they failed to make him quit.
Seems like we passed the Italian curse onto them
Pop quiz: Which would you rather have, the Labour Party or the Democratic Party?
I can’t decide which is more repugnantly bad at their job.
Which would you rather have?
The ineffectives, or the bloodthirsty maniacs?
Yeah, i thought so.
What are you talking about? They’re great at their job, they’re great at being the controlled opposition to the Epstein class.
