Nothing you’ve said contradicts Marxism-Leninism, though. You hopped up on a soapbox, railing against people that don’t exist. We know it’s the 21st century, socialism works, and is guiding the most rapidly developing economies like the PRC right now. Marxism has grown and evolved, and the basic critiques and tools laid out in Marx’s time have proven their usefulness when tested to practice.
As far as I know, this is the first time we’ve spoken. I don’t remember you, but I do know that this is a misrepresentation of me. It’s an incoherent rant against a strawman, just like your comment here as well.
Holy fucking hell, the material conditions described RADICALLY ALTER THE FUNDAMENTAL FOUNDATION OF YOUR THEORIES. You can’t just say “they don’t contradict anything” when the basic interaction of humans and the control they exert has radically fucking changed. It’s not possible to present any worldview integrating all these facts because you’re trying to apply broad-brush classical political physics to the unknowable future decisions of a shrinking handful of rulers and drained resources. Don’t worry though, God Lenin works in mysterious ways.
“Socialism works”. Sure does when you can slap the label on any old country without critically examining how they operate or how much they deviate from the stated core goals and road map of a socialist project. If the CCP determines that the only way to maintain control in a shrinking geopolitical landscape is to sedate 1/3 of the population and violently repress 1/3, how does that functionally differ from their post-capitalist neighbors doing the same? Is there any social progress to be made in such a state? But utopia soon ™️, just have to sink to new lows to match our neighbors.
And again, not a strawman when you can go to your history and read our convo to see yourself posting the same links and toeing the same party line verbatim. But if you don’t want to that’s fine. Just say I’m incoherent and confirm that you don’t have a sound response to the basic facts of life in 2025.
Time has moved on from the industrial revolution, yes. At the same time, the basic analytical tools of Marxism, such as historical materialism, have not become outdated. Analysis of capitalism along the law of value, analysis of circulation, reporduction on an expanded scale, the centralization of production, all have become increasingly relevant. The differences between then and now do not invalidate Marxism, because Marxism was not soley applicable to a snapshot in history.
Lenin isn’t god, either. Lenin analyzed imperialism, for example, which is extremely relevant today and is the driving force of western economies. He isn’t a god, he was just a man that accurately described existing processes that fundamentally describe the driving forces of existing economies in the west.
No idea what fanfiction you’re referencing with regards to China. It’s supported by over 90% of the population even when western polling organizations are gathering the data. It’s socialist because public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, ie it governs the large firms and key industries, not because of something like “labels.”
If our past conversation was you making a bunch of strawmen and getting extremely angry online, then I don’t think I need to go back and see it, I think I’ve already seen the extent you’re willing to participate in good-faith (not at all).
Nothing you’ve said contradicts Marxism-Leninism, though. You hopped up on a soapbox, railing against people that don’t exist. We know it’s the 21st century, socialism works, and is guiding the most rapidly developing economies like the PRC right now. Marxism has grown and evolved, and the basic critiques and tools laid out in Marx’s time have proven their usefulness when tested to practice.
As far as I know, this is the first time we’ve spoken. I don’t remember you, but I do know that this is a misrepresentation of me. It’s an incoherent rant against a strawman, just like your comment here as well.
Holy fucking hell, the material conditions described RADICALLY ALTER THE FUNDAMENTAL FOUNDATION OF YOUR THEORIES. You can’t just say “they don’t contradict anything” when the basic interaction of humans and the control they exert has radically fucking changed. It’s not possible to present any worldview integrating all these facts because you’re trying to apply broad-brush classical political physics to the unknowable future decisions of a shrinking handful of rulers and drained resources. Don’t worry though,
GodLenin works in mysterious ways.“Socialism works”. Sure does when you can slap the label on any old country without critically examining how they operate or how much they deviate from the stated core goals and road map of a socialist project. If the CCP determines that the only way to maintain control in a shrinking geopolitical landscape is to sedate 1/3 of the population and violently repress 1/3, how does that functionally differ from their post-capitalist neighbors doing the same? Is there any social progress to be made in such a state? But utopia soon ™️, just have to sink to new lows to match our neighbors.
And again, not a strawman when you can go to your history and read our convo to see yourself posting the same links and toeing the same party line verbatim. But if you don’t want to that’s fine. Just say I’m incoherent and confirm that you don’t have a sound response to the basic facts of life in 2025.
Time has moved on from the industrial revolution, yes. At the same time, the basic analytical tools of Marxism, such as historical materialism, have not become outdated. Analysis of capitalism along the law of value, analysis of circulation, reporduction on an expanded scale, the centralization of production, all have become increasingly relevant. The differences between then and now do not invalidate Marxism, because Marxism was not soley applicable to a snapshot in history.
Lenin isn’t god, either. Lenin analyzed imperialism, for example, which is extremely relevant today and is the driving force of western economies. He isn’t a god, he was just a man that accurately described existing processes that fundamentally describe the driving forces of existing economies in the west.
No idea what fanfiction you’re referencing with regards to China. It’s supported by over 90% of the population even when western polling organizations are gathering the data. It’s socialist because public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, ie it governs the large firms and key industries, not because of something like “labels.”
If our past conversation was you making a bunch of strawmen and getting extremely angry online, then I don’t think I need to go back and see it, I think I’ve already seen the extent you’re willing to participate in good-faith (not at all).